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10-12-2016 , 12:48 PM

#9901

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Portugal finshed 3rd in their Euro 2016 group behind the footballing power houses of Hungary and Iceland. After their qualification to the knockout stage, Portugal beat Croatia after extra time and then Poland via penalties before winning their first match of the tournament in normal time, the semi final vs Wales.

International tournaments should be completely forgotten when judging footballing talent, as they're high variance luck-fests. Germany have crushed international tournaments and even so, they're probably running above ev, actually they're definitely running above ev.

10-12-2016 , 12:50 PM

#9902

unwantedguest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kingweed

And that right there is englands problem.

Who is England's best player now? Is there even a standout player now?

10-12-2016 , 12:51 PM

#9903

BAIDS

2013 FA Cup winner

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 32,645

far as i can tell the thing most strong correlated with international success among european countries = being previously run by fascists. italy germany spain france

farage 2020

10-12-2016 , 12:59 PM

#9904

vruuuuk

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,423

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human Halo

Ye, the last 12 years of International footbal success between Portugal and England are not even close enough to be worth a comparison.

10-12-2016 , 01:04 PM

#9905

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

wöteva

Last edited by HH; 10-12-2016 at 01:06 PM. Reason: The point --------------------------------------------> you

10-12-2016 , 01:13 PM

#9906

Cinarocket

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HH, you didn't answer. Who do you think is the best english player and how is that player better than Pepe?

10-12-2016 , 01:17 PM

#9907

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinarocket

HH, you didn't answer. Who do you think is the best english player and how is that player better than Pepe?

I would put quite a few players ahead of him, but none of them are defenders - Smalling and Stones could potentially be better, but both of them are young.

10-12-2016 , 01:19 PM

#9908

kingweed

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Originally Posted by Consty

England have good players when everyone's fit, not at the level of the very best but still enough there to do well in a tournament.

To me that's kind of the issue. As all the players are playing in the best league everyone seems to think English players are good.

When really, if you look at them individually and collectively they aren't that good. Where do England realistically rank?

Got to be top 16?

10-12-2016 , 01:33 PM

#9909

Consty

resident wizard

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kingweed

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When really, if you look at them individually and collectively they aren't that good.

These fancy foreign managers coming over seem to think they're good though, they're starting most of them.

10-12-2016 , 01:44 PM

#9910

kevin21

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Playing with better players though

10-12-2016 , 02:14 PM

#9911

kingweed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Consty

These fancy foreign managers coming over seem to think they're good though, they're starting most of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin21

Playing with better players though

Hart shipped out. Saved England last night.

Rooney dropped. Sturridge not fancied. Cahill needs replaced. Walcott shouldn't be playing for England or Arsenal.

Stones i'll give you that. The Spurs lot are doing well but vastly over rated for the most part.

10-12-2016 , 02:18 PM

#9912

Consty

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Lallana and Sterling doing pretty well with their clubs.

10-12-2016 , 02:21 PM

#9913

kingweed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Consty

Lallana and Sterling doing pretty well with their clubs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin21

Playing with better players though

10-12-2016 , 02:37 PM

#9914

raheem

temp-banned

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,235

My theory is that the England team is fine, but all the media pressure and everything gets them to choke.

Also some bad luck.

Also the Premier League is so well respected that the English players that do well there tend to get overrated. Like the Iceland players were saying that they were playing against their heroes or some ****.

I'm not making much sense but whatever.

Last edited by raheem; 10-12-2016 at 02:47 PM.

10-12-2016 , 03:00 PM

#9915

Adolph Hipster

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Pepe is hugely underrated in England because he's as mad as a box of frogs. No England player in the current squad is a better player than Pepe. John stones is probably the best talent potential wise in the squad but will be hounded once he makes a mistake by knob ex pros and pundits.

I know the spud brigade will be out for blood after I say this, but alli and kane are overrated to an extent as well which is the same for our english boys as tbf.

10-12-2016 , 03:09 PM

#9916

kevin21

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I really dont care how good Pepe is as a footballer - he is a total scumbag. The things that man has done on the pitch in a behavioural manner is incredible. There's times when I think he needs to be committed.

10-12-2016 , 03:12 PM

#9917

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Lol at Kane and Alli being overrated - overhated by jelly arse, West Ham and LOLSEA fans - but not overrated.

10-12-2016 , 03:14 PM

#9918

Adolph Hipster

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 622

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human Halo

Lol at Kane and Alli being overrated - overhated - but not overrated.

Nothing personal bud

10-12-2016 , 03:19 PM

#9919

royalblue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin21

You could say he's the Portuguese John Terry

10-12-2016 , 03:23 PM

#9920

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

Marty,

Regarding a new android phone.

High-end: The google pixel aka google 7 is the best android phone on the market, comes with unlimited storage but is currently on pre-order only and is £599

Mid-range: Next there is the LG G4 and Nexus 6. Both of which have similar spec and are less than £300. NB the Nexus 6 has a 6 inch screen.

Low-range: The best, cheapest android phone is the ZTE Blade v7. You can buy one of these for <£150

10-12-2016 , 04:03 PM

#9921

heh

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Samsung S8, out in spring next year, is guaranteed to be the fiercest android phone to date. They have zero choice but to make it extra-beast after the Note 7 fiasco.

10-12-2016 , 04:04 PM

#9922

PeteBlow

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard

England will always be a shambles until they choose a manager that is even slightly above bang average.

Big Sam and then Southgate .... im would laugh real hard if they gave the job full time to Southgate.

I know hes not won much lately but Wenger at the end of the season would be a great choice imo.

We are going through, and tarnishing, decent managers at quite a rate.
The sooner everyone wakes up to the plain fact that the manager isn't the problem, the better.

We are picking from a tiny pool. It would be a bigger pool if we didn't have a ton of mediocre players from all over the world in the PL. The great foreign players do a great job of helping players progress but there's simply not enough young English talent playing with them.

10-12-2016 , 04:08 PM

#9923

DonkDonkDonkDonk

Goose

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heh

Samsung S8, out in spring next year, is guaranteed to be the fiercest android phone to date. They have zero choice but to make it extra-beast after the Note 7 fiasco.

Yeah, I heard its gonna be the bomb.

10-12-2016 , 04:13 PM

#9924

Hoopie1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteBlow

We would just be selecting from a larger pool of players that are mediocre at international level. We need to improve the coaching of kids across the board, which should create a higher standard of player for clubs to select from IMO.

10-12-2016 , 04:16 PM

#9925

Elrazor

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,891

The real reason England are so bad is English player's priorities:

Premier League>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Champions League>>FA Cup>>>>>>England>>>League Cup>>>>Europa League.

Basically, playing for England yields very little chance of actually winning anything, no chance of earning any extra money, while having every chance of being hung out to dry for every mistake.

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