Makes you wonder wether there's a sudden massive regression to the ban mean incoming à la Boom Bust Robot, doesn't seem like marty tho

wonder how the Arsenal ticket sales will look like? prolly the same cause Landn etc...

I thought WHU won't sellout the stadium, but I guess playing non-**** footy really helps you do that...It doesn't help Man****ty tho. they constantly need to be in cupfinals and/or hire people to come to matches. Was pretty shocking that you could get tickets for the City-Bayern game for 5quid

I think there are a good number of heavily discounted tickets that are a long way from the pitch. Also, we have been starved of success for so long that a sixth place finish is about as good as anything most people can remember.

Expectations are high and the skill gap between all the sides is probably finer than ever. We could just as easily finish in the bottom half of the table as we could in the top four next season - if it is the former, expect the noobz not to take that too well. See also: City, Manchester.

Those Arsenal tickets will keep on selling, guaranteed.

Teddy Sheringham is on my television, this is unacceptable.

Also, Charlie Adam has more chins than a Chinese phone book.

1) Top 4 and FA Cup: Yeah obv fistpump LVGin
2) 5th and FA Cup: Yeah but wouldn't cry if he got sacked
3) Top 4 and lose to Pards: OUT
4) 5th and lose to Pards: Lynching

I think we're on the verge of something special. His willingness to play youth is just tremendous. His game management is just abysmal.

I'm really anti-Mourinho tho.

1.) well at least you are not results oriented

2.) i like you more and more

FA Cup's more important than top 4?

****yes. Winning a trophy > top4 trophy imo

Was I the only one who had to look for the K in JD's username after that post?

those accounts could be merged imo

Yes. To us it clearly is.

We've already demonstrated it -

We finished 7th and signed Di Maria , Flacao (who at that point was OMG Greatest Striker EVER) and about £100m more.

Liverpool finished 2nd and were meant to then dominate English football with their Champions League qualification. They signed Balotelli, Markovic and Southampton.

United aren't like normal teams when it comes to the CL because:

a) We have loads of money regardless
b) Players play for us regardless (because of a) and "History"!)
c) We're not interested in the Arsenal model of perennial last 16 KO. If we're in it the goal has to be to win it.

Throw in the fact we haven't won the FA Cup for 12 years and it's a powerful draw. Winning a trophy in 1990 and 1991 was a major, major reason that Fergie was able to transition into a dominant team. Winning begets winning. Finishing 4th begets finishing 4th.

That's one of the oldest lines in the SE book at this point.

Question for Baids -

Scenario A: What actually happened. FA Cup and two relegations then promotion.

Scenario B: Lose the FA Cup Final to City. Finish 17th in a miracle. 14-15 finish 17th. 15-16 finish 17th.



Which do you choose, A or B?

On the same topic, a possible future scenario for LCFC fans:

Scenario A: Win 15-16 Prem. 10th in 16-17. Relegated in 17-18.

Scenario B: Spuds catch up, LCFC finish 2nd 15-16. Finish in the top 4 for the next 20 seasons though never win the league. LCFC recognised as a top 5 English club.

I'm a Scenario Aer. Every time. I would never ever choose Top 4 trophy over FA Cup in any context. Probably would ditch the League Cup tho.

Scenario A is a pretty solid prediction...

Although you forgot to mention 'Win CL in 16-17'.

Yes of course and pardon my lack of originality but do you realize you want LvG to stay/leave depending on the result of one game when you've had 2 seasons to judge him already?

never change

So scrap two seasons worth of data and base the decision on two games vs West Ham and Crystal Palace? Seems questionable. IMO he has to go even if we finish 3rd and win FA cup. The guy's a senile fraud.
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We agree on FA cup>CL at least. Somewhat agree on Mourinho too, can't stand him, but I'd still take him ahead of LvG.

I guess one thing that I recognise is different for me is that the CL holds zero mystique for me. We've had 20 seasons of it in my lifetime, with 25% of them ending in the Final. We've played almost every 'big' team there is to play on multiple occasions. To the Tottingham's and Leicester's (and maybe City's) of this world I accept that the novelty of the CL is a big, big draw, but for Chelsea, Arsenal, United and possibly Liverpool (depending on age) there is nothing interesting about it unless you actually have a shot at winning. Winning is interesting.

fa cup >>> survival that year not close. we were gonna get relegated at some point anyway

if u promised me like 25 years of uninterrupted PL football i might give up the cup but 3 years nothxbai

Yes, that's the entire point of football you try and win things.

"Sorry Bobby Moore, we know you wanted to lift the World Cup but at least that shot that almost crossed the line meant you won the xG and I'm happy to say that on a data analysis of England's performances we can say you were the best team in the competition."

This is a clear "JD wins the argument" moment.

I mean, come on X2, we're playing for the "two seasons worth of data" trophy now?

If Man Utd progression looks like:

13/14: 7th, no trophies
14/15: 4th, no trophies
15/16: 4th, FA Cup

Then I don't think that it's a progression bad enough to merit not giving him his final season of his contract. Especially if the alternative is Mourinho.

You don't realise how ridiculous it is to have him 'fistpump' in if you win the cup and out if they lose the final. It's one game, he's the same man if you win or lose that one game.

I agree with your points on top 4 tho.

fwiw i think cup > top 4 trophy is perfectly justifiable for a mun fan but i think you're somewhat underplaying the effect of losing out on the £100m or w/e it is for top4trophy. puts a small but real dent in your short term PL chances. could end up being the difference between signing the world class attacking bloke you need/failing to sign him