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09-18-2007 , 01:04 AM
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you say this because you are a gentleman and a scholar, but you really feel that the Eags are going to win the East, right?
My obsessed Eagles homer split personality does, but I try to repress him for the sake of intelligent conversation.
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09-18-2007 , 01:06 AM
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My obsessed Eagles homer split personality does, but I try to repress him for the sake of intelligent conversation.
Lions 35, Iggles 0. Ship it!
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09-18-2007 , 01:06 AM
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The Eagles have the potential to be just as good if not better, but they certainly haven't shown it so far.
agreed completely. I'd be very frustrated if I were an Eagles fan now. They're a tough team to figure out.

Detroit comes in at 2-0 and with some confidence though, and you know that Detroit is going to put some points on the board, so the Philly offense better figure it out quick. I think that 0-3 just might be the end of the season for them, especially with games @NE, @Wash, Dallas x2, Chicago, @NO, and Seattle still on the schedule.
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09-18-2007 , 01:09 AM
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you say this because you are a gentleman and a scholar, but you really feel that the Eags are going to win the East, right?
My obsessed Eagles homer split personality does, but I try to repress him for the sake of intelligent conversation.

you and me both, friend.


also, leehrat, after you talk [censored] on the city of Philadelphia you don't even stick around to argue with me about it.
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09-18-2007 , 01:31 AM


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I think they are better and more complete than Dallas,
The Redskins have better backs but their line is now somewhat inferior to the Cowboys'. I think any reasonable observer would take Romo over Campbell right now; I think you finally have to admit that. We'll call TEs a push. WRs to Skins with Glenn and Crayton hurt. Dallas has a better defensive line and better linebackers. Redskins have a better secondary. Dallas has better coverage units, a better punter, kickers are essentially a wash right now and the Skins have the return edge. Dallas has much, much better depth.

It's semi-arguable that Washington is the better team on paper, but I'd like to hear your case for it.
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09-18-2007 , 01:31 AM
Love my Skins. I feel good about this year.
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09-18-2007 , 01:45 AM
Anacardo,

First of all, I agree that Romo>Campbell. I'm not a big Romo fan, but I never would have said Campbell>Romo.

Your analysis is pretty spot-on; my only quibble is that I don't think Dallas has a better return game. Rock Cartwright is a relatively unknown but good KR and we all know what ARE can do as a PR. The two teams are very close overall, and whichever doesn't win the division has an excellent shot at the wild card.

Right now, I think Washington is ever so slightly better and they have an easier schedule, so I give them the slightest of edges to win the division. But I also think that Dallas has more upside. If they get that secondary figured out and Romo keeps it up, they could be scary good. I don't think Washington has the potential to be scary good.
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09-18-2007 , 02:00 AM
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If they get that secondary figured out and Romo keeps it up, they could be scary good. I don't think Washington has the potential to be scary good.
That's a great point and one worth noting in NFC. Let's call it the scary potential upside potential. Based on the first game, Dallas defense doesn't have this potential IMO. Their 'issues' in secondary are huge and it's not like they are the Steelers against run either. Above average most likely but not great. Didn't see them play Dolphins but sounds like Romo played well again. As long as TO stays healthy and/or moderately sane they can make big plays. Witten seems better than ever. Especially in NFC, this team can light up scoreboard.

Redskins are one of those grind it out teams. Campbell played good enough but no way he can blow up for multiple games. I love Moss/Cooley and ARE maybe contributing positively on offense as well. But, mostly just run ball and play defense. They are an elite pass rusher away from being a scary good defense based on this game. Secondary is [censored] sick, I want to see how they do facing a playmaker like Owens though.
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09-18-2007 , 02:06 AM
Fink,

I did say Washington had the better return game! I said Dallas had the better coverage units, though, which is only to be expected when you spend 9x% of your payroll on the starting eleven and can't be bothered to acquire the usual cast of hungry young recent drafteds that normally fill out your special teams. Plus I think the depth issue is pretty big. Dallas already has significant injury trouble with two of its five least replaceable players (Ferguson + Newman), plus we really can't lose Glenn AND Crayton. But before all that [censored], and even now looking ahead to the rest of the season, I think that Dallas can sustain attrition far better than Washington, which is important since injuries are a fact of life in the NFL. Danny Boy Snyder never seems to have grasped this, but that's his lookout. The Redskins are one CB injury away from Bitchville, and they'd sure as hell better not lose another starter off their o-line.

Breaking off with a question - I've read in several places that Brandon Lloyd is among the most disliked players in the NFL, by coaches and teammates. Can you tell me anything about this?
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09-18-2007 , 02:10 AM
Vix,

It all depends on Newman. Well, I'm pretty worried about the nose tackle situation at this point too, but other than that Terence Newman is the most important non-QB starter Dallas has. He is the difference between a very solid unit and a porous one. The problem is I doubt he'll ever be 100% this year; plantar fascitis is a real bitch that only rest can help. He might be in and out of the lineup all year. A healthy Newman and Henry form one of the top-ten cover tandems in the league, and give Roy Williams the freedom to play seven yards from the line of scrimmage, where God clearly intended him to stay.
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09-18-2007 , 02:12 AM
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Fink,

I did say Washington had the better return game! I said Dallas had the better coverage units,
Doh, my bad, I read that wrong.

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Breaking off with a question - I've read in several places that Brandon Lloyd is among the most disliked players in the NFL, by coaches and teammates. Can you tell me anything about this?
AFAIK, he is an ego-maniac that is impossible to coach and difficult to deal with in general.
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09-18-2007 , 02:15 AM
I wouldn't put Romo ahead of Campbell at all, we've only seen 2 regular season games with him this year against the Giants and the Dolphins, I'd like to see how he holds up next week. Right now I think it's close, by the end of the season if Campbell can clean up these rookie mistakes he's making I think he'll be the better QB.
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09-18-2007 , 02:19 AM
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Breaking off with a question - I've read in several places that Brandon Lloyd is among the most disliked players in the NFL, by coaches and teammates. Can you tell me anything about this?
AFAIK, he is an ego-maniac that is impossible to coach and difficult to deal with in general.
Not to mention he puts forth little effort to separate from his defenders and even less effort to fight for a ball. He's pretty much worthless unless the defense blows their coverage and leaves him wide open.
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09-18-2007 , 02:20 AM
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I wouldn't put Romo ahead of Campbell at all, we've only seen 2 regular season games with him this year against the Giants and the Dolphins, I'd like to see how he holds up next week. Right now I think it's close, by the end of the season if Campbell can clean up these rookie mistakes he's making I think he'll be the better QB.
You're being a homer just a bit. Romo has shown the ability to have monster games, on numerous occasions. Campbell not so much. A lot of it maybe play calling but still..
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09-18-2007 , 02:24 AM
He did only make the [censored] Pro Bowl in his first season asa starter, and all! Though there is of course room to argue about the legitimacy of that award, etc etc.
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09-18-2007 , 02:25 AM
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I wouldn't put Romo ahead of Campbell at all, we've only seen 2 regular season games with him this year against the Giants and the Dolphins, I'd like to see how he holds up next week. Right now I think it's close, by the end of the season if Campbell can clean up these rookie mistakes he's making I think he'll be the better QB.
I like Campbell a lot, but you're underrating Romo. Also Romo doesn't have many starts either, so its unfair to assume that Campbell will get better but Romo won't. From what I've seen from Romo so far, I think he has the potential to be a top 5 QB in the league by the end of the season, and I can't imagine Campbell doing that.
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09-18-2007 , 03:19 AM
F Philly. Go Skins! Tom Jackson was the only analyst to pick the Skins! Man that city (Philadelphia) is a dump
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09-18-2007 , 09:03 AM
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lol iggles
What does this mean? I've never heard this before and suddenly tonight I heard Chris Berman say it, Stu Scott say it, and two people in this thread.

Why is Eagles pronounced Iggles now?
Umm are you serious? You have never lived in or near Philadelphia I guess.
Umm are you serious? Crazy that I'm one of the 290 million persons that doesn't live in the Philly metro area. Sorry for asking. Bitter about the laughable loss??
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09-18-2007 , 10:08 AM
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Wow it almost looks as if the Iggles really suck, and the Skins may win the division!
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09-18-2007 , 10:10 AM
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I our kicker
He's got an arm, let him throw one not 10' over our WRs head.

Hell, run westbrook 1st, 2nd and 6, 3rd and 3 have him throw a TD pass on the sweep.
haha, what?
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09-18-2007 , 10:54 AM
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That seems pretty fair Assani.

I would say the NFC East is something like 42% Redskins, 42% Cowboys, 14% Eagles, 2% Giants at this point. It's really a toss-up between the Skins and Boys with the Eagles lurking. The Eagles have the potential to be just as good if not better, but they certainly haven't shown it so far.
Really? Even after this game, I'm no where near ready to make WAS a favorite for the divisoin equal to Dallas. I wasn't a big Romo fan coming into this season, but he's looked pretty good in his first 2 games. Campbell looks like he has potential, but still looks a little shaky on some of his throws. I'd put them at 8-8.
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09-18-2007 , 09:21 PM
There are positions on the field other than quarterback.

There are units on the field other than offense.

Washington is superior to Dallas in many of them.
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