Because who the **** is Jeff Horn

As for Floyd KOing CM, no. Floyd's hands are too brittle. He fights in Nevada because it's the only state that allows fighters to inject lidocaine into their hands to numb the pain felt with each punch.

For sure, Floyd is a much better lightweight than junior middleweight or even welterweight.

If he had fought the best at the bigger weights, it's likely he wouldn't have been in a position to make 100m+ vs Manny and Conor.

It appears he's going to make into his 50's without any serious brain injuries as well. Not something most great fighters can say. After all, there was the hand wrap situation with Margarito, Mosley was caught up in the balco scandle, and Manny could very well have been juicing.

For a guy who started his career at featherweight, I guess I can't really knock him too much for picking spots against aging has-beens and other midgets who have ballooned up for his 147-154lb fights.

Most casual observers don't even know who Winky Wright, Paul Williams, or Sergio Martinez are/were. Robert Guerrero and Ricky Hatton will serve just as well...

I disagree. You are saying that both Mcgregor/ Diaz fights weren't good fights? I may not be a "Real" MMA fan, but I certainly enjoyed those fights. I think Diaz 3 will most likely happen at some point. You are right though, not because he is the best in his division, but because it is going to be an entertaining fight.

I think Aldo is done. Yeah it could have been a lucky KO but Conor put him to sleep in seconds, and I doubt they get in the ring together again. I think CM would destroy everyone you listed, with the possible exception of Khabib. He is definitely a beast, but after that weight cut issue, who knows. That's a fight I'd like to see happen though. The UFC is going to deliver fights that the majority of fans want to see, and that isn't always necessarily the best fighters facing off. Hype and promotion sell fights. They are always going to cater to the masses, and not the minority "Real" MMA fans. They are a business, and want to creat big fights that sell tons of PPV's. If that makes them a joke then so be it, but I certainly think the UFC is in a better state that boxing currently.

Aside from die hard boxing fans, who is paying for any PPV boxing match anytime soon? Upcoming boxing matches won't even come close to the numbers this fight will generate, or even what a Mcgregor/Diaz 3 fight would pull in.

Also, you say Diaz wasn't top 5 at the time and that is probably true, but he took the fight with what, 10 days notice? He beat the **** out of CM in the first fight. Diaz can fight, and I was a bit surprised about Conors victory in the rematch. I think it could have gone either way, but there is way more money to be had in a 3rd fight that decided who is "Best".

I can't comment on the roids, but I tend to agree with you. If the fight happened in Manny's prime, he would have had a much better shot of beating Floyd.

where did i say was not a good fight o0 ?

main point was the 2nd bolded part, more pressing fights exist before the "Entertainement fights" that i call them hype fight...
CM holding the division up, twice now ( 145 & 155) he did it, over 2 years without ever defending a belt ONCE, not even once wtf !!!
enough is enough.

The only reason the UFC became much better than boxing was that best were fighting the best, no time wasting, the champ was basically fighting like 2 or 3 times a year vs the number 1 contender and we had great fights with the best of them and legend were create.
Now UFC does what you are saying and it is not going great for them now and it will become much worst if the UFC do not reverse back to the "old ways".

Why would the fan care on how much money the fight bring ?
That is the problem, for me anyway, i dont give a fack if a fight between the champ vs the number 10 contender makes more money than with the number 1.
I want see the champ defend his belt vs the most dangerous fighter ( and usually most deserving !) which usually is the number 1 contender, simple....

McGregor vs Diaz 1 should have never happened. But...RDA pulled out and Diaz was the only one ballsy enough to fight on short notice.

The only reason that this matchup has been competitive is that McGregor is just too damn small to be fighting at 170. Since McGregor lost, it's understandable as to why he wanted to avenge it.

If Khabib wasn't hurt all the time, perhaps we'd know who Conor should be fighting instead of Floyd. But as it is, there really isn't anything pressing going on there yet. Fighting Floyd was definitely the best and biggest move.

So you rather see Mighty Mouse fight Ray Borg than Tj Dillashaw? you see how that works?

Conor moving up divisions & fighting bigger threats & trying to do the unthinkable is more impressive & fun for the audience & better for the sport than him defending the belts. The 155 division is very good & him vs khabib or tony would be awesome but if he comes back to the ufc & does diaz 3 which is likely & then moves to 170 to fight tyron woodley how can you hate him? Woodley is a much more dangerous opponent for him than Khabib & it seems that is a fight on the raydar.

p.s Khabib should truly move up to 170 or ufc introduce a new weight division(162.5) because the dude almost died trying to make 155lbs last time, i'm a fan of his & i really don't want something bad happen to him just cause he's trying to make weight for a title fight.

the thing is, the special case you bring up is that MM already cleaned up his division and some fighters more than once already...

It is not about hating, it is about preventing the belt to be defend and than a lot of fights for contender #1 to #8 lose their appeal.
Holding out the division.
And champ vs champ is different WHEN the champ at least defend his belt just at minimum 1 freakn time, at least one, damn it.

For a guy who can't read Floyd is super smart. He's ducked fighting top opponents in their prime while fighting a style that doesn't get him hit and as a consequence he's maximized revenues while keeping his brain healthy and his undefeated legacy alive. For his next trick he makes more money than any other athlete alive makes in five years for fighting a guy who isn't even a boxer. If he stays undefeated that fact will help him marketing himself as the goat, which will be worth some pennies down the line.

The only recent top tier fighter remotely as smart as a businessman is Tyson, who figured out how to market himself as a talk show clown/freak despite being a rapist.

Floyd has fought and beat every top opponent that ever existed during his career. Lol haters. GOAT.

I keep hearing rumblings that there's a good chance CM will ko FMJ. WTF??!!!

totally agree. the hate that floyd gets is lol.

If canelo can't hit Floyd or knock him down, how's this mma clown gonna do anything? the only way mma dude even comes close is if floyd agrees to a wwf/wwe style script here.

My point is that Jeff horn is an undefeated fighter and casuals would have no idea who mannys opponent is anyway so i figured the promoters would be able to push the young hungry lion narrative they always do. Like manny v Lucas mattyshe is a better fight most likely but the vast majority of casual viewers wouldn't know that so I figured they would be pushing up the undefeated narrative because who is going to correct them . Somehow horn is only 5-1 tho so who knows

And to be fair to horn I have never actually seen him fight other than YouTube. But I'm just really shocked they are not trying to sell this at all I would have thought that was literally the entire point of putting it on ESPN

I may have misunderstood your line saying " UFC fans wants to see cm stop fighting the guys that are NOT the top dogs of his division ( Diaz) or preventing title fight from happening.
That is what "real" mma fan want to see."
I mean I understand what you are saying now I think. Diaz wasn't supposed to fight, and it wasn't for the title like it should have been. Was it Aldo that got "Injured" and pulled out? I can't remember right now.

I tend to agree with most of what you said though. It should be the best fighters facing off against each other in their division. Mcgregor has basically held up two divisions now for a long time, and it does seem pretty crazy. I don't really care about all the hype, I just like seeing good entertaining fights. The UFC is a business though, one that was just purchased for 4 billion dollars. They are going to set up as many "Big" fights as possible, to make as much money possible and you are right that could very well be their downfall. At that point it almost becomes like the WWE/WWF and is just a spectacle for entertainment and not a true sport. I do think they will get back to their "Roots" and start delivering title fights, but for the past couple years Mcgregor has pretty much been running the show it seems.

say what you will about the ufc but they are about 100x better than boxing about having the top 2 fighters in the division fight each other constantly for obvious reasons

'Floyd didn't fight Manny in his prime' is a weak argument that makes it sound like a young guy beat up on an old man when the reality is that Floyd is older than Manny.

It's been getting much worse since WME took over. Champions are all clamoring for Money fights now (as well they should) and WME has shown zero ability to handle it.

He can get credit for aging better and beating Manny when they fought, but it's inarguable that he fought, by his design, a less dangerous version of Manny.

Good for Floyd, it's why he's the best business man boxing has seen.

Age isn't the only determing factor when we talk about prime & ability of an athlete. They have pro athletes who fall off at age 30 because they don't take care of themselves in terms of diet & proper excercise, or their style is one which doesn't involve the most intricate technique but relies more heavily on power,speed, explosiveness. Floyd style clearly allows him to fight to an older age & him not drinking or smoking & taking care of himself allows him to stay on top for longer than Manny & many others. So yea, not enough to say Floyd is older so the argument is moot.

the f is taking them so long for the first presser?

Yup.

After Mayweather he wants Khabib in Russia hahahahahahah, how can you not love Conor?

Floyd posted his first boxing video since the announcement. Not sure how to link instagram videos.

God Damn he's an awful person but that double end bag work is insane.

That is mesmerizing, dude still looks pretty quick.