that Eckstein guy does well against him too

It's over.

It's so sad. If he does get run out of town I bet he turns into his dominant self again elsewhere for another team. That's gonna suck.

Clemens came back for this? LOL.

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Lidge didn't blow today's game. Qualls did. Lidge came in last night and was light's out. Lidge hasn't blown a save since my post that you quoted. He's the closer and he gets the job done fairly well when put in that situation. Case closed.

Garner does need to start managing our pitchers better.

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Lidge strikes out the side tonight for his 24th save. As long as Garner uses him in the proper situations, Lidge will be fine.

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In the proper situations? LOL, he's been afraid to use him at all! Christ, he brought in Pettite from the pen the other day rather than "lights out". Done, done and done.

Yes. That's why Garner keeps running him out there day in and day out in one run and tie games, both before and after that game, right?

Lidge had pitched the previous two days before the extra inning game you're referring to and pitched a lights out 1,2,3 inning the very next night. Your claim is laughable to anyone that actually follows the Astros.

Garner needs to use him in save situations only though.

If he truly is their best reliever then this is very dumb.

This thread has degenerated into the biggest waste of time ever.

Lidge has a good outing, his supporters come out and cite it.
Lidge has a bad outing, his detractors come out and bash him, the Astros, and Aceshigh.

We should really lock this thread. Aside from his inconsistency, Lidge is too nice of a guy for this thread to exist.

Mods?

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. Yeah, let's institute a "only threads about a-holes" rule. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Bump so we don't start another new thread. As fun as they are.

From the Houston Chronicle:

Garner said Lidge, who gave up a game-tying home run to Murton in the ninth, was no longer his closer.

"He threw the ball good, and it becomes a mystery now," Garner said. "If he's not throwing the ball good I could see things like that happen. I told him we're going to take him out of the closer's role and we're going to do it by committee. He may close games in certain situations, but I may use him in the seventh and eighth innings as well."

Funny how because he is struggling they now decide to use him in more important and high leverage situations.

News: Manager Phil Garner said RHP Chad Qualls, RHP Dan Wheeler and LHP Trever Miller will get their turns as closers after Brad Lidge blew his fifth save by giving up Matt Murton's ninth-inning homer on Tuesday night. Garner said he would adopt -- with skepticism -- a "closer-by-committee" for the short term. "Almost always, when your bullpen is pitching well, they'll say, 'Well, our roles are defined, we knew what we're going to do,"' Garner said. "Not too many times, do you see the bullpen-by-committee work the way you'd like to see it work. But if it's not working the other way, you need to do some things."

but he has 26 saves!!!! who cares if he has a 5.7 ERA?!?!?!

From yahoo's 'news and notes' section:

Sep 14 The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports Houston Astros CL Brad Lidge may not be used in situations where St. Louis Cardinals 1B Albert Pujols is at the plate. "If he throws to him like the way he did to Preston Wilson, we get him out," Astros manager Phil Garner said. "He didn't. The way Pujols is going, he breaks his bat and still drives in a run. So, I'm not going to fool with that again."

PWN3D.

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I love how he pretends that getting Wilson out is some sort of accomplishment.

Why would he "pretending" that was an accomplishment? As if PHIL GARNER THE GUY WHO MANAGED WILSON FOR MOST OF THIS SEASON is unfamiliar with how often P-Wil strikes out!?

Get a life man.

If you stopped trolling and actually watched the AB, you'd see that he K'd wilson on a nasty slider just off the outside corner.

And the ball Pujuls hit was not a bad pitch. Inner half..fastball..you can't really waste a pitch on Albert b/c he's so disciplined.

I was more upset by the fact that he drilled Spezio IN THE FOOT on the first pitch to put the go ahead run on. I was also upset at the horrible play on the ball Lane made in the LF corner. He's got to cut that ball off before it gets to the wall and get it in with Spezio still at 3rd.

I hope you're not trying to imply that a pitcher's defense has an impact on his results??

We all know that either a pitcher can get the job done, or he can't, and Brad Lidge simply didn't get the job done.

I hope you aren't failing to realize he hit Spezio on the first pitch with 2 outs to GET to Albert.