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Old 04-25-2012, 07:42 PM   #276
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crosby confirmed jello-brain. pretty sure he'd say no if a shinny game broke out in his front yard.
we know that won't happen since we know that mario lemieux never plays hockey anymore
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:54 PM   #277
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Crosby would probably say no to an air hockey game against a scantily clad Paulina Gretzky
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:44 PM   #278
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Hope for the Sharks?!?

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According to CapGeek.com, Thornton, Marleau and Handzus all have no movement clauses, while Boyle has a limited no-movement clause in which he can choose eight teams to which he won’t accept a trade after July 1.

“Let’s put it this way. I’ve heard that we don’t have a lot of flexibility. I don’t necessarily agree with that. I’ll just leave it there,” Wilson said.

He continued, though: “We have several contracts that are up, we have some flexibility and structure. We have players that people want. As we go through the season-end review, you want to be in conversations with other teams. You want teams to want to talk to you, and you want to be able to talk to them and be aware of what’s going on. As we go through what our decisions are when we get to that point, we’ll have people who want to talk to us.”

Wilson cited last year’s Dany Heatley trade to Minnesota for Marty Havlat when discussing the matter. Heatley was allowed to choose 10 teams to which he would not accept a trade, and the Wild was not on that list.

That clause-within-a-clause was not public knowledge at the time.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:01 PM   #279
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Hello offseason thread.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:53 AM   #280
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Luo apparently submitting a short list of teams. A bit early in the offseason isn't it?
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:43 AM   #281
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Been avoiding this thread like the plague until now. Here I am.

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I think it's variance and ****ty goaltending but you're absolutely right that the Flyers ran the Pens' skaters ragged. I think you're overrating Tampa Bay last year, they weren't all that great on the power play. I think they just got hot at the right time, as they say.

Definitely with you on not getting it at all.
I just have a difficult time chalking it all up to variance and run bad when they get scored on practically at will two years in a row on the PK. If they massively underperform again next year are we going to just chalk it up to variance again?

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They weren't great this series, no doubt, but I strongly disagree with most of this. Martin was so shockingly bad in his few games to make me question my view of him being decent enough to play beside Letang. That doesn't take dazzling play just not ****ting the bed but he was incapable of getting close to that level. Still, I think you're overrating what second and third pairing guys typically bring to the table. I don't think we can get those results with Crosby missing so much time and Staal missing 20 games, not to mention last year, with the defensemen being close to what you describe. I think blue-line depth is actually a big strength on the team.
Some of it was probably an overreaction on my part. Orpik and Martin were just horrendous this year though, and Michalek hasn't been a whole lot better. Perhaps it's just an expectations thing. I expected this group to be a lot better than they've been. On the bright side, I love our bottom pairing. I still think one of Martin / Orpik / Michalek need to go though. There's too much money invested in the three of them for the results we're seeing, and we're pretty loaded with NHL caliber D as it is.

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For some evidence of this, the Flyers' 5-on-5 shot rate in the series was 23.8 shots per 60 minutes. That's third lowest in the playoffs so far. In the regular season they were at 31.3. That's not the be all end all or anything, and I do think there is a shot-quality argument to be made here because there were some terrible turnovers, allowed breakaways and good ol' fashioned standing around leaving guys free to tuck in the awful rebounds Fleury was giving up but at the very least they did a pretty good job at suppressing shots. And yeah, that's all time and not just tied but the Pens were up for a lot of the series.
Right. I think the shot quality argument here is rather strong, and I think anybody who watched the series can attest to that. I would agree that their 5 on 5 play wasn't particularly bad though, it was their efforts on the PK that lost us the series. What were our shot suppression numbers like there? I'm legitimately curious, small sample size or not.

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You know what makes defensemen look bad? Their goalie giving up a goal every five shots.
We can agree here.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:03 PM   #282
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supposedly Tampa Bay and Toronto on Lu's short list.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:15 PM   #283
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toronto 1111TIIIME for the lulz.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:21 PM   #284
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I mean it's going to be Toronto, there is no ****ing doubt in mind it's going to be Toronto.

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Old 04-26-2012, 01:25 PM   #285
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I mean it's going to be Toronto, there is no ****ing doubt in mind it's going to be Toronto.
Ugggh. Him going to Toronto is bad enough, but Toronto actually offering anything beyond a bag of used (new ones aren't worth it) pucks is just terrifying.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:34 PM   #286
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Luuuuu going to Toronto would be amazing for the lols. Would hate for him to waste his career away in obscurity somewhere in Florida.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #287
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From an optics perspective, I'm not sure if Toronto has any other choice.

Fans are legit infuriated here. Try explaining to an exasperated diehard fanbase that a Josh Harding/James Reimer platoon tandem is the best option going forward next season, even though it might be.

The Leafs haven't had a legitimate starter since Belfour's '03-'04 season - one way or another, that needs to get rectified.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:49 PM   #288
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Goose: Pinterest? Really?
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:23 AM   #289
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:25 AM   #290
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:25 AM   #291
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:32 AM   #292
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omg omg omg i writed something!

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Old 05-12-2012, 03:08 PM   #293
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I'll post this here since it's most relevant to offseason stuff.

Our podcasts are now going to be on NHLnumbers.

In our first edition, we talked to James Mirtle from the Globe and Mail about all kinds of stuff, he knows all, and Corey Pronman about the draft.

link
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:08 PM   #294
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I've got some updates fro up north for you boys

Things are a lot worse than anticipated

I'm basically dealing with Paulina Gretzky v 2.0 here
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:49 PM   #295
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WG: Are the non-Canadians supposed to know who the chick's dad is yet?
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:51 PM   #296
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lol Flyers

lol Bryz

lol Holmgren

lol Snider

But let us not forget

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Old 05-12-2012, 06:52 PM   #297
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DETAILS WG DETAILS
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:25 PM   #298
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Malkin had a hat-trick and 4 pts against Sweden yesterday. GOAT WC performer.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:25 PM   #299
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20 Cent ghana 20 Cent:

http://deadspin.com/5909246/reconstr...end-in-madison

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I'll post this here since it's most relevant to offseason stuff.

Our podcasts are now going to be on NHLnumbers.

In our first edition, we talked to James Mirtle from the Globe and Mail about all kinds of stuff, he knows all, and Corey Pronman about the draft.

link
wow, well done! i mean lol @ nhlnumbers / capgeek4L!, but nice work

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I've got some updates fro up north for you boys

Things are a lot worse than anticipated

I'm basically dealing with Paulina Gretzky v 2.0 here
twitpics or it didn't happen

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WG: Are the non-Canadians supposed to know who the chick's dad is yet?
lol no
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:11 PM   #300
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Hello fellow offseasoners. Heading to the driving range in a bit.
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