BCS National Championship game - Page 21 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

Two Plus Two Forums Sports and Games Sporting Events

BCS National Championship game

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 21 of 33

First

11 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 31

Last

Page 21 of 33

First

11 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 31

Last

01-08-2008 , 01:21 AM

#501

Needle77

No Longer Protecting

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 43,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austiger

The SEC should go to a 4 team playoff. Play the semi-finals in Atlanta 1East v 2West, 1West v 2East, then have the winners meet in the Sugar Bowl for the national title.

Make one game in San Antonio and the other in Indy, IMO. +1 is fine for me though, no more though. I can't imagine the #5 team saying they deserve the nat'l title all that often.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:21 AM

#502

heater

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 11,402

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalkingDonkey

Ugh. What a turd the BCS laid on us this season

mmmmhhhhmmmmm...

The other day I said, "go bucks" and you said F that or whatever.

Man, I tried to hold up some Big Ten loyalty tonight but somewhere through the second quarter my true colors came shining through and I began to thoroughly enjoy watching the ol' scarlet and gray get ****ing stomped. I can't help myself.

I live in Columbus and tonight could have been fun but the next few weeks are gonna be GREAT.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:21 AM

#503

TalkingDonkey

RIZZAHHHHHH

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17,137

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevieG

But that's part of the point. If they wanted a playoff, they could go after a 12th team to make it happen. I believe the Big 10 doesn't want that. So they don't bother.

Arguably ND isn't interested because they like preserving their own peculiar path to postseason dollars. But the Big 10 would have had chances with the shift from ACC, Big East and Conference USA a few years ago.

What if the Big10 were to go after Pitt?

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:22 AM

#504

StevieG

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,792

Quote:

Originally Posted by capone0

What teams would you nominate to join?

With the Big East getting raided by the ACC, the opportunity was ripe to go after WVU or Pitt. Both fit the geography and profile of the schools in the Big 10, and Pitt would revive a good rivalry with Penn State (or WVU could develop one).

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:23 AM

#505

Tom1975

arbitrary and capricious

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 17,723

I'm a huge Big 10 and OSU fan and I've been calling for a playoff for over ten years. Maybe the other conferences are really that much better and we'll never get near the national championship again but that's on us. I tend to think these things go in cycles and the Big 10 will be the top conference again at some point. That's neither here nor there though. The existing bowl system is archaic and needs to be dismantled. I'd take a dump on the 50 yard line of the Rose Bowl if that's what it took to get a playoff.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:27 AM

#506

ABOL2006

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,804

GG LSU etc. w/e ****

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:27 AM

#507

Victor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 77,598

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevieG

He does guarantee that there is no playoff in place.

In the meantime, the Big 10 that has a lot of weight in the press and therefore the polls. Add to that a conference system designed purposefully not to eat its own (they do not play all teams in the conference, and there is no playoff game). By design, the Big 10 champ has more of a shot to make the championship game than other conference champs.

playoff doesnt matter.

the only decent point you make is the conference championship game. its been the downfall of a lot of teams. its also vaulted some teams into the game. cuts both ways.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:30 AM

#508

nath

the second coming of the second coming

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 69,114

Damn, didn't have internet during the game.

Anyway, yeah, this confirmed pretty much everything I thought. The Big Ten's fraud of playing 11 games against mediocre competition and sneaking into the championship against teams who played 13 games against legit teams has been exposed again and is hopefully over. (It won't be, but once again we know.)

This score could have been much worse- OSU's scores were based on 3 botched plays and one garbage-time TD.

My fanboy line: how would OSU finish in the SEC? They aren't of LSU or Georgia's caliber. Are they of Florida or Auburn's? Tennessee and Kentucky's? Or worse?

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:32 AM

#509

UATrewqaz

banned

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 9,699

As others have noted, the BCS isn't about anyting other than money and preserving the big 6 conferences and major bowls grasp on the money while appearing to give the public what they want.

The public isn't fooled.

While it's true a playoff would generate a ton of money, that money would be going into different pockets than it is now. Why give up a sure big chunk of change when there are no guarantees in a playoff? F'ing crooks and liars, all those damn comminsioners and bowl reps.

F the anti playoff idiots, F the B11/PAC10/Rose Bowl circle jerk, F Notre Dame

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:34 AM

#510

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,714

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1975

I'm a huge Big 10 and OSU fan and I've been calling for a playoff for over ten years.

Talk to the flabby old men. Of course you want a playoff. You're a fan. You'll keep coming back for the same watered down anti-climactic post season. So your vote counts for ****.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:34 AM

#511

GtrHtr

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,449

Quote:

Originally Posted by nath

yep, yep, yep, and yep. well said nath.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:37 AM

#512

GtrHtr

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,449

Get the pac10 and big 10 to buy into a playoff and its done. The SEC wants it pretty badly based on last years comments from the SEC conf. and post season coaches comments.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:49 AM

#513

GtrHtr

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,449

Quote:

Originally Posted by GtrHtr

OSU = 0-8 vs SEC in bowl games, I wonder why?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomCollins

Jim Tressel is 5-3 in Championship games. I wonder why?

0 and 9 and it remains a joke how they get into so many championship games on a hope and a prayer. Gogogogogogogogo /SEC and bring on a playoff plz one time.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:50 AM

#514

Azkedelia

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 535

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevieG

Meh Pitt would be an OK option but WVU's academics aren't even close to Big Ten standards.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:51 AM

#515

dawade

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12,998

Quote:

Originally Posted by UATrewqaz

I know you fans of other conferences and teams outside the SEC hate to hear over and over how the SEC is the best conference, but it's just how things are. You can not like it if you want, but you have a hard time hiding from the truth.

As a Michigan fan that lives in Tennessee I can tell you that I do appreciate the amount of talent found here in the SEC. However, EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS THIS! WE GET THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS BEAT EACH OTHER UP SO BADLY THAT YOU EEK INTO THE TITLE GAME ONLY TO DESTROY YOUR OPPONENT.

WE GET IT.

SEC IS AWESOME and I'm pretty sure 99.999999999999999999999999999% of the population agrees with you so just knock it off already.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:53 AM

#516

pvn

Guest

Posts: n/a

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Talk to the flabby old men. Of course you want a playoff. You're a fan. You'll keep coming back for the same watered down anti-climactic post season. So your vote counts for ****.

Cue MT2R and his sycophants to tell you that fans are stupid and don't deserve to get what they want. Boosters and "serious" fans (i.e. fans that agree with the boosters) should make all the decisions.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 01:57 AM

#517

Needle77

No Longer Protecting

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 43,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

ZOMG Someone has a different opinion!!!

+1 FTW.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 02:00 AM

#518

dawade

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12,998

Quote:

Originally Posted by nath

]The Big Ten's fraud of playing 11 games against mediocre competition and sneaking into the championship against teams who played 13 games against legit teams has been exposed again and is hopefully over. (It won't be, but once again we know.)

Michigan and I'm assuming every other B11 team plays 12 regular season games, just like every other team in the country. They just added Penn State to the conference in 1990 and the SEC added South Carolina and Arkansas in 1991.

BTen11 has offered ND multiple invites to the conference; who else would you like to see them invite? Cincinnati? Akron? Western Michigan? Central? Eastern? Iowa State?

And as for the SEC playing 13 legit teams, it's hard to give them credit for playing legit teams when they refuse to play anyone outside the South (save for Tennessee/Cal and USC/Auburn like 5 years ago).

Quote

01-08-2008 , 02:01 AM

#519

StevieG

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,792

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

playoff doesnt matter.

the only decent point you make is the conference championship game. its been the downfall of a lot of teams. its also vaulted some teams into the game. cuts both ways.

I think it's actually more important that they play only 8 of 10 possible conference opponents.

The playoff does matter. It's the whole point.

Delaney realizes that a playoff takes away the natural advantage the Big 10 champ has for reaching the championship game - polling power. Playing a schedule that makes an undefeated or 1 loss season more likely also plays to that strength.

Why give that away by accepting a playoff?

Last edited by StevieG; 01-08-2008 at 02:04 AM. Reason: they played 12 games, my bad

Quote

01-08-2008 , 02:05 AM

#520

pvn

Guest

Posts: n/a

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawade

And as for the SEC playing 13 legit teams, it's hard to give them credit for playing legit teams when they refuse to play anyone outside the South (save for Tennessee/Cal and USC/Auburn like 5 years ago).

Of course, the vast majority of "legit" teams are in the south, as evidenced by the bowl results.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 02:12 AM

#521

pirateboy

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,070

Quote:

Originally Posted by nath

How ****ing dare you put Tennessee on the same ground as Kentucky. UT has beaten UK 23 straight times, beat UGA, and played LSU tougher than Ohio State did.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 02:14 AM

#522

Victor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 77,598

Quote:

Originally Posted by GtrHtr

0 and 9 and it remains a joke how they get into so many championship games on a hope and a prayer. Gogogogogogogogo /SEC and bring on a playoff plz one time.

sorry but youre a fckn idiot. they went to 3 title games since bcs started in 98. they gasp won in 02. were clear cut number one team and only undefeated team last year. they clearly deservedly belonged in those 2 games.

this year, was a fluke but whatev. its still way better than ou's legacy.

Quote

01-08-2008 , 02:15 AM

#523

JackWhite

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,784

Quote:

Of course, the vast majority of "legit" teams are in the south, as evidenced by the bowl results.

Then those teams should have nothing to fear from playing a road game on the west coast or in the upper midwest. I'm sure Florida and Georgia are going to schedule some road games outside of the South soon?

Quote

01-08-2008 , 02:21 AM

#524

Francis_MH

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10,386

Just wondering...Does LSU get every vote for #1 in the AP poll? If not, who gets a vote?
I think USC will get at least 1, as well as Kansas, maybe UGA. It would be absolutely awesome if some writers got together and voted KU #1, just to show some illegitimacy for this stupid-ass format.