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BCS National Championship: 2. Alabama vs 1. Notre Dame

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Alabama by 100+

36 19.57%

Alabama by 21-99

28 15.22%

Alabama by 11-20

46 25.00%

Alabama by 1-10

24 13.04%

tie

5 2.72%

Notre Dame wins

45 24.46%

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12-01-2012 , 10:20 PM

#51

Jamietrix

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Notre Dame nearly lost to PITT.

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12-01-2012 , 10:23 PM

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ND's chance of beating a mediocre team may indeed be 80%.
Bama's chance of beating the same mediocre team is over 95%.

I'm not disputing that Alabama is the better team. The betting markets clearly indicate that.

You implied that Alabama's schedule was harder because they played more top-flight teams. I'm saying that if you combine those tough games with a bunch of really easy games and assess it probabilistically then the difficulty of schedules can look differently.

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12-01-2012 , 10:26 PM

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I'm not the one who cherry-picked teams to make ND's schedule look really really tough. I'm the one who pointed out that it didn't prove what he thought it did.

I was counting the historical football superpowers that we voluntarily scheduled and beat. The calculated SOS is for the math nerds on January 8th.

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12-01-2012 , 10:29 PM

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I was counting the historical football superpowers that we voluntarily scheduled and beat. The calculated SOS is for the math nerds on January 8th.

Cool, historic superpowers. Nice, so like Spain had the worlds biggest navy 500 years ago, the US should declare war on them to beef up their power rating.

Of course, now ND gets to play a CURRENT superpower. Lets see what happens.

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12-01-2012 , 10:32 PM

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Pitt won a Natty in the 70s, gotta count them too

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12-01-2012 , 10:36 PM

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This is what the BCS should be:

NCG: Notre Dame vs Alabama
Rose: Stanford vs Florida
Fiesta: Kansas State vs LSU
Cotton: Oklahoma vs Texas A&M
Sugar: Oregon vs Georgia
Orange: Florida State vs South Carolina

Under the preBCS system we play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl so the BCS did not make this year any better at the top. But it did guarantee, I think Louisville a bowl against a team whom they will play in conference very soon.

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Didn't your div2 opponents win an in-state tournament this year? Maybe you could retroactively claim them some titles.

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12-01-2012 , 10:45 PM

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Nah, preBCS Notre Dame would've accepted a Fiesta Bowl bid no later than week 6.

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12-01-2012 , 10:46 PM

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pvn, all I ask is that you leave our trees out of this

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12-01-2012 , 11:01 PM

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So you are saying beating 10 mediocre teams is tougher than beating 3 good teams? Going to have to disagree. Was far more impressed with ND winning in Norman than all the other wins combined.

Apparently you haven't watched us in big games. We lost to K State at home too.

(and I'm pretty sure we were motivated for both games)

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Notre Dame nearly lost to PITT.

and Purdue.

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12-01-2012 , 11:07 PM

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SEC would win all of those; easiest pick 6 ever

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12-01-2012 , 11:16 PM

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What's really great is that by 1973 Alabama rules, Notre Dame just won the National Championship.

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12-01-2012 , 11:52 PM

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Line opened at 8 at William Hill in Vegas

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12-01-2012 , 11:54 PM

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What's really great is that by 1973 Alabama rules, Notre Dame just won the National Championship.

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12-01-2012 , 11:55 PM

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Line opened at 8 at William Hill in Vegas

10 on 5dimes.

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12-01-2012 , 11:56 PM

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What's really great is that by 1973 Alabama rules, Notre Dame just won the National Championship.

oh the butthurt

those were everybody's rules in 1973

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12-01-2012 , 11:59 PM

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What's really great is that by 1973 Alabama rules, Notre Dame just won the National Championship.

You know, it really is amazing how many times an Alabama natty resulted in an overhaul of the system. Pretty much between them and Oklahoma, you can account for almost all of the changes. Two tiny population states whose sole skills are football and angleshooting?

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12-02-2012 , 12:05 AM

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There's both pretty good at voting loons into office as well.

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12-02-2012 , 12:09 AM

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Don't forget Southern Cal. When they didn't play in 2003 their whining resulted SOS taken pretty much out of the BCS, which then bit them in the ass in 2008.

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12-02-2012 , 12:11 AM

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Honestly I bet in 20-30 years all pre bcs nattys will be thought of like those old basketball ones.

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12-02-2012 , 12:14 AM

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Honestly I bet in 20-30 years all pre bcs nattys will be thought of like those old basketball ones.

by then saban will have 14 crystal footballs so we'll pretty much be in the same place.

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12-02-2012 , 12:42 AM

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Don't forget Southern Cal. When they didn't play in 2003 their whining resulted SOS taken pretty much out of the BCS, which then bit them in the ass in 2008.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure Bama has won a title, had the rules changed...eventually won another title, and then had the rules immediately changed back to the older way. Now I'm not sure if that's impressive or weird, but it is something.