then why have people affiliated with the CFA bowl itself said they prefer Duke to VT? All the projections with us losing have Miami in the CFA bowl and then VA Tech leapfrogging us to go to the Russell Athletic Bowl. I mean, Miami isn't even good anymore and their fans are much more fair weather than teams like VT. Also, we can be sure about Duke fans because this isn't 1955 and information is out there. From what I have heard from a friend working for the athletic department, CFA tickets are oversubscribed already.

can someone explain the anti-tOSU sentiment to a casual fan.

is the argument just that they should be punished for not playing any tough OOC opponents? Is it just that the SEC is so much better that people think they should pretty much have one slot in the title game locked up? It seems even the anti-tOSU people agree they would be favored vs auburn or basically anyone else who has a chance to get into the championship game?

I personally don't really want to see them in it either but I don't feel like i've seen a great justification for leaving them out.

Think a lot of it comes from 2 things
1) Getting crushed in 2 title games in back to back years
2) A lot of ******ed OSU fans who live in denial about the SEC

they can't justify it there trying and ill show you how

There defending there one loss saying new coordinators new this new that so what next year they have more experience (not valid argument)

there saying that LSU is 39 and 1 at home and auburn is basicially supposted to loose that game and its ok (i hate this) being an old school guy i do value going undefeated.

how come everyone wants to peg on Auburn having a new qb new coordinators etc.

but they don't wanna remind people that Braxton Miller missed several games and we held serve w/ Kenny Guiton.

we also played our first 3 games w/o Hyde (who with those games played is probably at the top of hte Heisman race considering J. Winston's situation).

SEC fans are obsessed with there streak because they know starting next year the sec title game will basicially be a play in game and if they can just push in one more year this streak could turn into a very very long streak. but they don't deserve it they could very easily have 3 losses Ohio state held serve all year and basicially had several 3plus games missed by not 1 but there 2 BEST PLAYERS

THE NATION HAS NO IDEA HOW HARD THAT IS I GUESS YOU THINK FLORIDA COULD HAVE WON IF TEBOW MISSES 3 AND PERCY MISSES 3, OR IS MCCARON MISSES 3 AND YELDON MISSES 3 ITS HARDER THEN YOU THINK AUBURN MIGHT HAVE WENT O AND 3 WITH ITS QB AND RB BEING THAT THEIR OFFENSE IS BUILT AROUND THOSE 2 PLAYERS.


oh yea IF YOU WATCH OHIO STATE OURS IS TOO (we just won our games)>

Auburn fans believe strongly that the SEC is the best conference and remain very pissed about 2004. Auburn was undefeated and clearly better than Oklahoma in 2004 imo. It was infuriating to be left out of the title game and to watch Oklahoma lose by 36 in a ridiculously non-competitive title game. Most Auburn fans feels that the 2004 team was better than the 2010 national championship team, perhaps by a significant margin. 4 players off that team were drafted in the first round, including two of the top five picks.

That said, AU's case in 2004 was much stronger than its case this year.

AU case in 04 was way better they were undefeated and had good players on both sides of the ball.

AU this year has a loss and if they get in there basically doing to OSU what was done to them in 04 (they of all people should know better) but the SEC is greedy w/ power esp hen it comes to SEC champ. Just to tell you how obv this is all the people repping AU if they loose to MIZZOU. then all these AU repping SEC fans will magically turn into MIZZOU fans over night and you heard it here first when it happens.

its not our fault that the big 10 is weak, but it is the SEC's fault that they made there conference a daunting gauntlet of teams that makes it impossible to go undefeated and i am sick of 1 loss SEC entitlement Alabama got it twice and now they want winner of AU and MiZZOU to get it too.

just sad so sad

The OSU hate isn't hate, its common sense. The SEC has won 7 consecutive national championships. They are by a country mile the best conference in the country. It defies all common sense to not give their conference champion a slot in the title game.

Now, add to this that Ohio State is, objectively, a very mediocre team. They play in a tire fire conference and despite knowing this, scheduled functional byes in the non-conference. They then proceeded to rely on questionable officiating to beat a very bad Northwestern team, have a competitive game with Iowa in the fourth quarter, eek out a nailbiter against Wisconsin and come within a play of losing to a downright terrible Michigan team.

Add to both of the above that despite getting curbstomped in multiple title games OSU fans continue to insist that the Big Ten doesn't suck, that the SEC isn't better and that they are nationally competitive. It gets really old. If they get in they will get absolutely demolished yet again then proceed to retain the same absurd attitude.

i hate to do this but if you think big 10 people compare it to the sec your a fool and yes we struggled this year but we had key injuries this year and battled through them how would FSU had down if J. Winston missed 3 games we battled went undefeated and its our i say we are on a 24 game winning streak SEC fans says

thats last year it don't count

SEC fan counters with 9 straight national games like thats not in the past


CMON ITS REDICULOUS IF OSU TAKES CARE OF A TOP TEN TEAM THIS WEEK WE ARE IN AND SEC CAN SUCK IT

YOU CAN'T EEK BY MORE THEN AUBURN A HAIL MARY AND A 108 YARD RETURN IS WHAT SEPERATES THEM FROM LOOKING ALOT LIKE WISCONSIN THEY DON'T CATCH THOSE 2 BREAKS AND THERE EASILY 9 AN 3 OR 10 AND 2 AND WE ARE NOT HAVING THIS CONVO

3)Coaches who look down their nose at the SEC and talk about playing "the right way" and then turn out to be hypocritical cheaters (see Tressel, Jim)
4)Administrative members who look down their nose at other schools when they play soft schedules (see Gee, Gordon, and his comments on TCU) and now expect to get a spot in the title game despite a soft schedule

Maybe if OSU's public representatives didn't talk like they spend all day smoking pipes and sniffing their own farts and debating if they're so smart because they went to OSU or if they went to OSU because they're so smart, they wouldn't be so insufferable

Don't forget lecturing the SEC for playing criminals then having no problem with URB playing tons of criminals.

So 2 former employees rustled your jimmies.

Probably extremely well considering the backup was ahead of Winston in the Spring and is uber talented and FSU actually has a defense whereas OSU does not.

It's with all 13 games.

Ohio State didn't schedule a bad OOC. Scheduling Cal was actually a pretty marquee game when they put it on the calendar, it's not their fault we're trash. And everybody outside the Pac 12 plays 9 real games per year, while the Pac plays 11, so they don't have a contingency if their one decent OOC game sucks.

in urb's defense, just because ONE GUY turned out to be a serial killer doesn't mean he played tons of criminals

31 arrests from 25 players at Florida

8 arrests at Ohio State before the starting rb slapped a girl in a club and the all-american safety got arrested in a bar fight, so at least 10 there for 41 total

URB PLAYED WAY MORE CRIMINALS AT UF THEN OSU but he's got time to fix that. the SEC GUYS WEREN'T COMPLAINING THEN

SEC GUYS ARE JUST DOOSHING THEMSELVES THIS WEEK WHEN MIZZOU WINS THIS WEEKEND YOUR GONNA HAVE THE SAME ARGUMENT BUT YOUR GOING TO CHANGE THE NAME TO MIZZOU INSTEAD OF AU

why does no one appreciate that Ohio State missed Braxton Miller for multi games and Carlos Hyde for multi games


THESE ARE 2 OF THE 15 BEST PLAYERS IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL WE HELD SHIP HELD SERVE THIS IS OUR YEAR WERE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM FSU AS LONG AS WE DON'T LOOK PAST MSU

Nope, they are not just "two former employees"; they were the two biggest public faces of OSU and are representative of the attitude OSU and its fans take toward the rest of the college football world.

Also hard to get rustled by a team that gets curbstomped every time someone mistakenly lets them play a nationally relevant game.
COULD YOU TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK WHENEVER YOU POST BECAUSE it's incredibly obnoxious, even if you OCCASIONALLY TURN IT OFF MIDWAY THROUGH A POST

Riverman leaving himself no outs as always.

grimday, what's your point? No SEC fans are denying that they want any SEC team in the big game even if it can't be their own.

The BCS is just so lol. I can't believe we're debating who is the most deserving to play in the MNC game out of the #9, 11, and 15 Sagarin Predictor teams.

TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO THINK OSU ONLY GETS CRUSHED ASK MIAMI ONE OF THE GREATEST TEAMS IN FOOTBALL BEST TEAM MONEY COULD BUY ACTUALLY AND WE SHUT THOSE GUYS UP AND WE'LL DO THE SAME TO FSU

how could you expect ohio state to survive the murderers row of buffalo/san diego st/cal/florida a&m without those two

I've never understood why the Florida/OSU and LSU/OSU title games get lumped together as a blowouts. Two totally different animals.