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02-20-2011 , 09:17 PM
good writeup, i agree with everything except the value of robertson, which we're still just a bit off on and neither of us have enough information to convince the other, imo
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02-20-2011 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
Take back pick #120 and give me your last round pick. Honestly, if I had proposed the trade to you that was exactly what I would've offered....I swear.
done... all i really care about is people not tanking the rest of the draft.
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02-20-2011 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
Take back pick #120 and give me your last round pick. Honestly, if I had proposed the trade to you that was exactly what I would've offered....I swear.
This is still super absurdly ridiculous. A little better yes, but I'd still vote to veto this for fairness to all. No one is blaming you or is pissed but it's pretty clear what the right play is.
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02-20-2011 , 09:18 PM
The only fair thing to do is to let everyone send one offer to loosekanen for Jordan and then let Jetto pick which one he has to accept.
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02-20-2011 , 09:18 PM
i'll finish draft no matter what happens, but I don't agree that changing the pick rounds matters...like I said, jordan is guaranteed championships as perceived by people here post-draft

west has a very slight chance of being perceived as winning 1 ring by a few people in the league

jordan can only fairly be traded for maybe 3-4 players in the league
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02-20-2011 , 09:19 PM
i honestly apologize for getting everyone so incredibly angry... definitely wasn't the plan.
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02-20-2011 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
This is still super absurdly ridiculous. A little better yes, but I'd still vote to veto this for fairness to all. No one is blaming you are is pissed but it's pretty clear what the right play is.
+1
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02-20-2011 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
done... all i really care about is people not tanking the rest of the draft.
let this be the end of it guys.
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02-20-2011 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
My fantasy leagues all have the same rule and I think its the best one: If the league thinks you're colluding, then you're kicked out no questions asked and don't get your money returned. If you're not colluding, then any trade will stand even if its not even value.
LOL so can you give me some examples of trades worse than the MJ/West trade? This seems like something you wouldn't participate in as it gives the person that steamrolls the other in the trade a massive, massive edge.
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02-20-2011 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LurchySoprano
Nothing like making a poor 2nd round choice due to the fit with your #1 overall pick and then dumping the GOAT for Jerry West and Dave Debusschere.

:facepalm
what I don't understand is the fit doesn't work, but each pick was pretty good value.. why not dump dominique?

on a team of deron-mj-nique, there is def 1 player im trying to trade... hint: not mj
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02-20-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
This is still super absurdly ridiculous. A little better yes, but I'd still vote to veto this for fairness to all. No one is blaming you are is pissed but it's pretty clear what the right play is.
Its now #1 and #276 for #21 and #65, and this is a draft with a very deep 1st round(#21 is much closer to #1 in this than in other drafts, as you can see by the fact that Jerry West is awesome). Read point #1 in my above post....worse trades than this happen in major sports leagues every single season. You guys are too good at drafting now and critique things extremely closely.
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02-20-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SirOsis
Great writeups, Fritos. Impressive amount of work going into those.

Another quick reminder to PM the person picking after you and this draft will continue to be great.
thanks osis.
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02-20-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kbfc
I'm sorry, but if you can make 31% of your 3pt shots in the NBA while being the focal point of the defense for nearly every shot, you can shoot 3s, and that's not even close.
Agree, it's worth noting that Iverson shot .347 and .345 when he was in Denver. lol sample size (400+ attempts), but I think it's reasonable to think that he'd shoot a decent percentage with Kidd feeding him.
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02-20-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
what I don't understand is the fit doesn't work, but each pick was pretty good value.. why not dump dominique?

on a team of deron-mj-nique, there is def 1 player im trying to trade... hint: not mj
I really wasn't interested in making a trade until Assani approached me, thus, I intended to dump mj for thurmond and west but thurmond was sniped and i went thru with it anyway.

I wasn't aware anybody would have had interest in Nique considering nobody really received the pick in a positive manner. i kind of figured i was stuck with him.
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02-20-2011 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
I really wasn't interested in making a trade until Assani approached me, thus, I intended to dump mj for thurmond and west but thurmond was sniped and i went thru with it anyway.

I wasn't aware anybody would have had interest in Nique considering nobody really received the pick in a positive manner. i kind of figured i was stuck with him.
not true about nique but you might not have gotten great value....you didn't get great value for mj anyways.
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02-20-2011 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
Its now #1 and #276 for #21 and #65, and this is a draft with a very deep 1st round(#21 is much closer to #1 in this than in other drafts, as you can see by the fact that Jerry West is awesome). Read point #1 in my above post....worse trades than this happen in major sports leagues every single season. You guys are too good at drafting now and critique things extremely closely.
So basically your argument is we should let the trade go through because we're not ******s? Got it.
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02-20-2011 , 09:26 PM
i don't get the "you guys are good at drafting" argument

i think you take 100 random people off the street and they all agree it's bad value

this is JORDAN we are talking about here
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02-20-2011 , 09:26 PM
I'm one of the biggest hawks fans around, but nique has gotta go if he doesn't fit with Jordan, not MJ
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02-20-2011 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitchface
The only fair thing to do is to let everyone send one offer to loosekanen for Jordan and then let Jetto pick which one he has to accept.
lol
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02-20-2011 , 09:31 PM
im fine w. the trade (substituting last pick instead of 120). still, lol.

is it on epi or me?
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02-20-2011 , 09:32 PM
it's my pick, doing my writeup now. u will love the pick btw bobbo, one of ur favorite players of all time
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02-20-2011 , 09:33 PM
epis pick. let it go.
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02-20-2011 , 09:33 PM
AK47 is def a reach right now. And god damn you are sniping us.
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02-20-2011 , 09:34 PM
loosekanen,

I will send you McGrady for Jordan. In addition, you will get my 4th-round pick for your last round pick, and we will swap picks in every round where I select ahead of you.
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02-20-2011 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
So basically your argument is we should let the trade go through because we're not ******s? Got it.
Does Bill Belichick protest every trade Dan Synder and Al Davis make? Look, I was put in a bit of a tough spot because I really didn't do anything wrong, but I'm the commish so I need to be fair and impartial. I willingly gave up a 5th round pick even though the trade I agreed to gave it to me. Many commishes wouldn't have done that imo, so its kinda annoying to me that I'm gonna still get criticized even after that.
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