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02-18-2011 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elrey
can i take magic and cannibalize my team?
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Originally Posted by McBeef
i'll take over, thought i was gonna be away this weekend but not anymore. i like the magic pick there anyway
heh, i'll give it to McBeef....aaron, epi, and bobbo are usually online often, so you should prepare to pick pretty soon.

Can someone change C Viggity to McBeef on spreadsheet please
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02-18-2011 , 10:16 PM
estimation of when we'll get to me (7 picks)? Don't know how Friday night is for you folks. I myself have a 9 year old sleeping and poker going LOL. Likely to be tonight , or rather sometime tomorrow?
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02-18-2011 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
We need to decide on this in advance....


C-Viggity signed up for this draft. He picked Magic Johnson in round 1. He still hasn't done a real writeup, nor has he responded to any of the criticisms made of his pick. Here, you can see for yourself the posts hes made in the thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/se...rchid=17052618


We are on pick #40 now and he picks at #43. Drafts rules were that I was going to be strict about writeups and people contributing to the discussion. Even though C-Viggity is a respected poster, I think I have to follow those rules and kick him out. Do we have anyone who can take over his team? If not, what does everyone think we should do? Worst case scenario, I would just take over and draft for him, but I'll listen to some other opinions first. I don't want to just get rid of his team because Magic is such a unique player and it'd suck to not have him in this.
Boot him.
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02-18-2011 , 10:34 PM
Bobbo: Moses can play PF. He did it plenty on the 76ers title team and is shorter than Pau. It wouldn't be too big of a deal to switch them depending on who we're playing.
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02-18-2011 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cardsman
estimation of when we'll get to me (7 picks)? Don't know how Friday night is for you folks. I myself have a 9 year old sleeping and poker going LOL. Likely to be tonight , or rather sometime tomorrow?
probably tomorrow
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02-18-2011 , 11:12 PM
im here
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02-18-2011 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aejones
im here
looking forward to it.
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02-18-2011 , 11:21 PM
2nd round pick:

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In the first two rounds I thought it was important to get elite shot creation and efficient scoring, and I do just that adding Kevin Durant to the roster. In his first 3.5 seasons, Durant has missed less than 10 games due to injury. He's 6'9, can put up big bulk numbers on good efficiency (even if he was running hot, had an absurd offensive season last year), can rebound for a SF, and probably is at least an average defender (I'd project him to get better simply due to his size).

One of the last elite offensive players who can do it with tremendous efficiency, and he can do it every night for 40 minutes a game. Seems to fit in very well with Oscar's style of play, can plays off the ball, and gives me more height to abuse mismatches. Booyah.

PG - Oscar Robertson
SF - Kevin Durant
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02-18-2011 , 11:23 PM
Like Durant pick
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02-18-2011 , 11:24 PM
def like durant pick.
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02-18-2011 , 11:26 PM
Blake def shouldn't of gone before Durant.
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02-18-2011 , 11:29 PM
I think Durant gets hurt pretty badly by this format. His game suffers more than most from having to play against elite players/defenders every night. I had him slotted as a 3rd/4th rounder and think it's too early.
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02-18-2011 , 11:29 PM
Had wet dreams about Bowens and I pairing Durant with Shaq. Looks like that def wasn't happening though. Def should have went ahead of Blake.
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02-18-2011 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Had wet dreams about Bowens
ygos?
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02-18-2011 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cardsman
estimation of when we'll get to me (7 picks)? Don't know how Friday night is for you folks. I myself have a 9 year old sleeping and poker going LOL. Likely to be tonight , or rather sometime tomorrow?
you never really know...just check in when you can, and if you see you're up soon then try to send someone a list





I was deciding between Durant/Pippen/CP3 when I decided to trade down. Thoughts on deciding to go with Pippen out of those 3 to pair with Jerry West?




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Blake def shouldn't of gone before Durant.
this.
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02-18-2011 , 11:32 PM
I think a lot of the modern players are going much much to early.
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02-18-2011 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
you never really know...just check in when you can, and if you see you're up soon then try to send someone a list





I was deciding between Durant/Pippen/CP3 when I decided to trade down. Thoughts on deciding to go with Pippen out of those 3 to pair with Jerry West?




this.

Durant is much like Jerry West. Still think he went too high but to add another jumpshotting/slashing scorer would be redundant. I like Pippen so much better in every way.
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02-18-2011 , 11:37 PM
I made a list of 12 anticipating my upcoming pick and Durant was 3 on that list. Love him, and I think he is a guy that would learn to pair well with a guy like Oscar.
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02-18-2011 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kowboys4
I think a lot of the modern players are going much much to early.
Seriously this. Of all the NBA players EVER and Blake and Durant have already been picked? Wat? Blake has played what, 40 games?
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02-18-2011 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitchface
I think Durant gets hurt pretty badly by this format. His game suffers more than most from having to play against elite players/defenders every night. I had him slotted as a 3rd/4th rounder and think it's too early.
I think it helps more that his usage goes from 32% to 25% than he is hurt by the good defenders he'll face.
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02-18-2011 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
Agree with this point....its one reason people hated on the Stockton pick- hes a good player, but really how far is Stockton gonna carry you against the talent in this league?
I think this is backwards...Stockton is the best PG in the draft (with these rules, he's better than Magic) so everyone else is going to be behind me on the pg matchup

If I had taken a big instead, I'd still be behind kareem/wilt/shaq anyway at center

As it is, I got Parish so I'm still up there in the Center discussion and I've got top pg....basically i win pg matchup practically every time and win center matchup against all but 10 or so teams, draw with 5 or so and lose with 5 or so
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02-18-2011 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
Seriously this. Of all the NBA players EVER and Blake and Durant have already been picked? Wat? Blake has played what, 40 games?
I don't really understand why this matters. We're predicting how he does in the future, and if we predict that hes a 2nd round value then he should go then no matter if hes only played 1 game. Since I can't name undrafteds, heres a comparison between Blake and the last PF taken: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ffbl01&y2=2011


I think Blake is clearly better when looking at that comparison. With the other player you get proven production in his prime years, whereas Blake is unknown. And thats why Blake went after him. However, from a prediction standpoint, Blake's rookie year is better than all these other PFs, so if he stays healthy its quite reasonable that he'll end up being better.

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02-18-2011 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
I think this is backwards...Stockton is the best PG in the draft (with these rules, he's better than Magic) so everyone else is going to be behind me on the pg matchup

If I had taken a big instead, I'd still be behind kareem/wilt/shaq anyway at center

As it is, I got Parish so I'm still up there in the Center discussion and I've got top pg....basically i win pg matchup practically every time and win center matchup against all but 10 or so teams, draw with 5 or so and lose with 5 or so
winning positional matchups isn't how basketball is decided. Stockton simply isn't a game changer like those who were taken before him.

I think most of us would agree that Stockton was a slight reach and that he should've gone around maybe 20 or so. That doesn't at all mean its a horrible pick. However, you need to realize that a big part of his value is longevity, so when just speaking about his peak hes probably closer to #30 or so.

If i were you, I'd absolutely continue your strategy and I'd center my argument around being the best team in years 13 through 20 in our league. I don't think you're going to convince anyone that your team is a realistic title contender in the early/mid years of this league.

Regardless I was just using Stockton as an example in the Rodman debate...wasn't trying to knock the pick or anything.
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02-18-2011 , 11:49 PM
Some of the younger guys went too early, but I don't think Durant did. When you are elite at one NBA skill (shooting in this case) you really can't complain TOO much about it.
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02-18-2011 , 11:49 PM
i considered durant at my pick. he has a pristine injury history and is nice favorite to go down as an all time great scorer. i see him having a dirk like career statistically, but at the 3, so his lack of rebounding is a positive rather than negative.
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