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11-08-2013 , 12:04 AM

#101

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

Shark Doctor followed by the DREAM TEAM up next

Again, NO RUSH guys. If you don't have a quality write up, don't make a post.

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11-08-2013 , 12:08 AM

#102

Das Boot

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 20,196

Dudd

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11-08-2013 , 12:19 AM

#103

Ray Horton

banned

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,879

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Originally Posted by Karak

Again, NO RUSH guys. If you don't have a quality write up, don't make a post.

Dat pressure.

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11-08-2013 , 12:20 AM

#104

Larry Legend

Celtic Pride

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 42,920

fgators solid pick and great writeup

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11-08-2013 , 12:21 AM

#105

miajag

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fgators needs to be featured in S1E1 of "TwoPlusTwo: Where Are They Now?"

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11-08-2013 , 12:24 AM

#106

Ray Horton

banned

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,879

if they never played poker a better thread than fgators imo.

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11-08-2013 , 12:24 AM

#107

Triumph36

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shame so many of the images are lost in the fgators thread, but that's still a solid thread. also nice about it is that it isn't crammed with a bunch of dumb GIFs

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11-08-2013 , 12:25 AM

#108

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

does waybackmachine capture images?

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11-08-2013 , 12:27 AM

#109

Shark Doctor

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I'm back. I have my writeup pretty much ready, but I'm nowhere close to a good writer as Dudd.

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11-08-2013 , 12:28 AM

#110

Dudd

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Wayback machine does cache images

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11-08-2013 , 12:28 AM

#111

Shark Doctor

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Nice write up Dudd. Unfortunately for fgators, he really was just running bad.

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11-08-2013 , 12:28 AM

#112

Ray Horton

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11-08-2013 , 12:30 AM

#113

Shark Doctor

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Round 1, Pick 5

"There is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it"

Spoiler:

In Hitchcockian style, I am going with a thread that was just the anticipation to the bang; it was the true terror that every person who played online poker had feared. It may seem a little redundant, but I believe it holds it own in this draft very well; afterall, this is a Thread draft, not an incident draft.

"Do you trust playing online for real money". "You know poker is gambling". Everyone that didn't play, just didn't get it! They didn't get that this was not gambling, they didn't get that this was not rigged and they didn't get that our money was absolutely secure. We heard this from our close friends and family to the neighbour down the street and every other person in the world that had an opinion to share. If that wasn't bad enough, in 2008 a couple of highly respected online pros came out with the old "online poker is rigged!" statement...sigh...probably just running bad

Spoiler:

The #5 overall pick in the All Time 2+2 Thread Draft:

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Suspected super user on UB: Nionio

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Originally Posted by trambopoline

Me and dplnyc21(wofldog2121 on UB) were discussing very suspicious play of player Nionio from our databases. He played for a few months only (July, august, september) but was a huge winner at 60bb/100 over 64 hours while playing 68/60! Another note was his increasing aggression factors on every street (1.25, 1.37, 2.28, 5.75, 1.5 total). The funny part is he started playing at about the same time and ended right when all of the AP cheating info was leaked and doubledrag was caught. The last date of him ever playing cash games on ub is 9/4/07. Im not exactly sure when all of the ap info was leaked but im pretty sure it was right around that time. Anyways here are all of the HH's, Gaucho and I are 100% convinced this guy was a cheater. Were both convinced that he would occasionally make blatantly obvious terrible plays with the worst hand just to make his image really ****ty so he could get paid off later. Any other info, hand histories, session notes would be greatly appreciated.

NOTE: upon further research he is up 55k vs me, 28k vs gaucho, 23k vs whee and 26k vs zeebo. These were the most winning players on the site at that time. Further note: the stats I just gave are over only 2300 hands in my db
*deleted about 30+ HHs*

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Originally Posted by Daliman

Looking through the first 15 hands or soI see see nothing that shows me he anything more than a loose fish.

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Originally Posted by nevadaJACK

Looking at the first HH u posted, I have a different theory as to why wofldog2121 is down money to that guy...

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Originally Posted by eso

I am not convinced at all by the HH's. There were a few times where he had 2 pair on the river but only called a river bet, even though he had the best hand.
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Originally Posted by ike

I don't buy it at all. In any case this has absolutely nothing in common with the AP cheating. The AP guys could see your hole cards and would play well based on that. This guy's play is consistently awful based on the information that an AP-style superuser would have. If he has an unfair edge its that he can see/control what cards are coming, which is not, apparently, something the AP superusers could do. I'd bet this guy is just a lucky fish.

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Originally Posted by MDMA

Jesus, if stuff like this is to be regarded as "proof" then we'll soon have an entire community claiming everybody else is a superuser, and that's exactly what poker DOES NOT need.

I cannot see any proof at all in these hands. Some erratic play sure, but mainly I'm asking the same question as JMA did: Some (quite a few in fact) of those hands are completely standard and ridiculous to post.

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Originally Posted by ike

is there a single hand you posted that strongly suggests he can see your holecards? because there are plenty that strongly suggest he can't.

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Originally Posted by Jman28

Gotta agree with Ike. I don't know if this guy is a superuser or not, and I'm not ruling it out, but these hand examples are 100% standard for a fish.

I actually laughed at the 1st two.

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Originally Posted by fsuplayer

im with ike and krantz on this one.

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Originally Posted by fsuplayer

and i kinda want to delete this thread.

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Originally Posted by ike

i strongly encourage you to do so

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This thread eventually led to the #1 overall pick, Suspicious Plays on UB 25/50 and 50/100., but I like this thread better. It was like going behind the scenes to a movie, maybe pre-production and seeing how everything unraveled through the directors eyes.

Last edited by Shark Doctor; 11-08-2013 at 12:36 AM.

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11-08-2013 , 12:31 AM

#114

Ray Horton

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Seems redundant on first glance.

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11-08-2013 , 12:32 AM

#115

Larry Legend

Celtic Pride

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 42,920

good pick

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11-08-2013 , 12:34 AM

#116

Ray Horton

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11-08-2013 , 12:37 AM

#117

Omar Comin

fantasy failure

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27,348

Fgators <3

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11-08-2013 , 12:37 AM

#118

Omar Comin

fantasy failure

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27,348

Nice write up shark.

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11-08-2013 , 12:37 AM

#119

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

Good write up Shark.

tuq/riverman DREAM TEAM now on the clock

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11-08-2013 , 12:46 AM

#120

TJ Eckleburg12

Only Gives Out Winners

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,171

great writeups dudd and shark

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11-08-2013 , 12:47 AM

#121

tuq

TEEJ

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 46,365

ffffffffffffffffff

Getting late yo and I've been out, no idea if Riverman is around. No way I'm doing a full write-up tonight or picking without a consult. He has permission to pick without me though.

Will PM him my suggestions, we already have list. Based on my familiarity with the choice I can do a proper write-up in the AM.

Nice recent picks / write ups btw.

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11-08-2013 , 12:56 AM

#122

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

no problem.

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11-08-2013 , 01:11 AM

#123

DatFirefly

veteran

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,142

My god I remember that FGators thread. That graph is beyond legendary, I'd totally forgotten about it.

That picture is also hilarious. Winning 0.01 BB/100 over 138,084 hands is just like...amazing.. I was a terrible cash game player but I probably could have done similar over 138,000 hands. LOL

Great thread.

The cheating/scandal threads seem redundant but they are both mindblowing to read given the actual truth