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02-10-2009 , 03:33 AM
If the Colts cut Marvin Harrison (which saddens me to even think about, but it has to happen unless he renegotiates significantly), it frees up $9 million. I think there is about 2 mil that would be dead cap from his signing bonus, but it $7 mil is a pretty big chunk to work with.

Manning's current cap number for 2009 would be the biggest in league history, but he has already renegotiated several times to free up cap space and he will likely do so again this year.

All that money is likely to used to keep Saturday and Hayden though, not a big name FA.
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02-12-2009 , 02:46 PM
Jaguars cut Florence and Porter. At least they admitted the mistake.
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02-12-2009 , 06:36 PM
ugh, it would've been nice to see haynesworth come back but i think the possibility of signing haynesworth to a huge contract and then him getting hurt or just having a bad year is to large of a risk for a small market team like the titans. Besides Jason Jones and Dave ball both played pretty solid this past year. tbh I think we could manage without him.
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02-12-2009 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNoodleMan
If the Colts cut Marvin Harrison (which saddens me to even think about, but it has to happen unless he renegotiates significantly), it frees up $9 million. I think there is about 2 mil that would be dead cap from his signing bonus, but it $7 mil is a pretty big chunk to work with.
Has anyone heard anything about Marv renegotiating? He's made his money and a few shooting defenses/car washes aside, I'm willing to believe he's doing well enough financially. I have to think there's some chance he'll take a cut.

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Manning's current cap number for 2009 would be the biggest in league history, but he has already renegotiated several times to free up cap space and he will likely do so again this year.
Making more from endorsements than his contract, and seeing what a huge amount of the cap he's eating up, combined with the history you mention, is there any way he doesn't?

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All that money is likely to used to keep Saturday and Hayden though, not a big name FA.
No one seriously believes Indy will even call Haynes' agent right?
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02-13-2009 , 12:51 AM
People at the Pro Bowl were reporting that Freeney and Manning were recruiting him in the locker room and Haynesworth was asking about the coaching situation and what it's like playing there as well as with a few players from other teams. He says he wants to play in Tennessee again but I'd guess that just means that he'll give them a chance to match the highest bid.
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02-13-2009 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mflip
People at the Pro Bowl were reporting that Freeney and Manning were recruiting him in the locker room and Haynesworth was asking about the coaching situation and what it's like playing there as well as with a few players from other teams. He says he wants to play in Tennessee again but I'd guess that just means that he'll give them a chance to match the highest bid.
Oh I'm sure Indy would love to have him, but they won't approach anything resembling the highest bid.
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02-13-2009 , 03:49 PM
Also, Indy is a very good team when it comes to BAP in the draft and where they are in the draft this season it looks like Peiria Jerry is gonna be sitting right there for them to snatch up. He could fit BAP and need perfectly. Is he Haynesworth? Not at all but he also won't be an aging player that is gonna warrant an enormous contract.

In reality I see the Colts going their bargaining ways and grabbing someone in week 2 of FA for a very good price and stay out of week 1 yet again this year.
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02-13-2009 , 04:21 PM
So when do the Jags sign this years Porter / Florence this season .

Might be the worst 1-2 signings of all time for how much they gave them for 2 guys who noone really wanted and everyone thought would be horrible.

With the Jags next year the big thing will be if the offensive line can come back healthy and if they can find someone to replace the big hole that Stroud left when traded 2 seasons ago. I believe if they can fix those 3 things they should be back and running--if not it could be another very long season like last season.

As a part-time Titans fan my hope is that Kerry Collins signs a 2 year deal and eventually Vince Young never becomes the QB for the team. I really like Haynesworth so I hope he re-signs with the team although his impact might be less than I thought--I think when he's motivated and healthy he is absolutely a beast up front and makes everyone else in the Titans D look better than they really are. Not sure what the Titans will do in FA and the draft but hopefully it's something smart. I still really hate Lendale White as a backup RB. I wish he was the 3rd back. The team was really exploited during the playoff loss to the Ravens b/c of this.
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02-16-2009 , 02:21 PM
Jags cut Fred Taylor

No surprise here, it'll be interesting to see if they can bring him back or if he finishes up elsewhere.
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02-16-2009 , 03:00 PM
Obviously I knew there would be a day where he wouldn't be playing for Jacksonville and the contract he had was just to much. But it doesn't change the fact that I will be very sad when he is no longer in the Jaguars uniform. It can be an odd year in the AFCS, Marvin and Taylor might not be with the teams they will forever be known with when opening day comes.
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02-16-2009 , 04:29 PM
No surprise, hopefully he will be back. Looks like he's taking it well at least.
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02-17-2009 , 01:57 PM
Is there any news on whether Kevin Mawae is coming back next year? Some people were talking about him maybe retiring but I haven't heard anything since either way.
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02-17-2009 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mflip
Is there any news on whether Kevin Mawae is coming back next year? Some people were talking about him maybe retiring but I haven't heard anything since either way.
I see no reason, outside of the surgery on his bicep going wrong, that he won't return and be the starter next year. He is one of those special lineman that continue to play at a high level late in their career. I don't expect him to be as good next season as he was this past one, mostly because he will be 38, but he will definitely be worth 2.5 million.

I would expect the Titans to address it in the draft with a later round pick and putting a "jar on the shelf" as they say.

Edit to add: I can't see Mawae playing past 2009 though. He will be a free agent in 2010 and 39 years old. I would be surprised if he doesn't retire at that point.
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02-17-2009 , 02:55 PM
Taylor will catch on somewhere. He's still good enough to get carries in this league, and he doesn't turn the ball over. Obv. he's not worth $6M or whatever Jax was gonna have to pay him.

INDY getting Haynesworth would not be as terrible as it sounds, as they'd be taking him from their main division competitor. The division swing of AH going from TENN to INDY would be huge. Peyton v. TENN w/ no AH would be very good for Peyton imo.
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02-17-2009 , 07:15 PM
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Taylor will catch on somewhere. He's still good enough to get carries in this league, and he doesn't turn the ball over. Obv. he's not worth $6M or whatever Jax was gonna have to pay him.

INDY getting Haynesworth would not be as terrible as it sounds, as they'd be taking him from their main division competitor. The division swing of AH going from TENN to INDY would be huge. Peyton v. TENN w/ no AH would be very good for Peyton imo.
Not really. Peyton facing TENN without AH would be great except for everything that Indy would have to give up to sign him. Unless I'm missing something and AH is willing to work for a huge paycut, there's just no way Indy can sign him.
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02-17-2009 , 07:58 PM
They need to cut Harrison for sure. I were their GM, and he were due $9M next year I'd cut him in a heartbeat.

Of course they won't because he's Marvin Harrison and GMs like to "keep their job".
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02-18-2009 , 01:14 AM
Eh, not that Fred Taylor is Marvin Harrison but I think the two are major faces to their respective franchises. Though Marvin did have Peyton by his side for the most of it and Peyton is the face of that team.

I really don't think that many fans will attack Polian if he cuts Harrison. They will make an evaluation on him and depending on that evaluation he will be asked to fix the contract/retire/be cut.

Also, if the Jets could waive Joe Namath any player can be cut, ldo.
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02-18-2009 , 01:25 AM
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They need to cut Harrison for sure. I were their GM, and he were due $9M next year I'd cut him in a heartbeat.

Of course they won't because he's Marvin Harrison and GMs like to "keep their job".
The Colts GM is mortal lock future HOFer who has the job for as long as wants it. He isn't looking over his shoulder when making a decision on Marvin.

Its pretty common to hear a Colts fan say "I wanted us to draft X, but Polian took Y so Y must be better." His track record is so strong that he gets no significant interference.
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02-18-2009 , 02:26 AM
Good then he'll do the right thing and cut Harrison.

I mean Peyton still has Wayne/Gonzales/Clark.

At this point Harrison is just an expensive piece of the law of diminishing returns.

What I mean is W/G/C/H isn't worth much more than W/G/C/Rookie, and they save millions.
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02-18-2009 , 07:58 AM
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The Colts GM is mortal lock future HOFer
Really? Bill Polian a mortal lock for the HOF? He's been one of the top GM's in the league for the last decade but that's quite an overstatement.
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02-18-2009 , 10:49 AM
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Making more from endorsements than his contract, and seeing what a huge amount of the cap he's eating up, combined with the history you mention, is there any way he doesn't?
from what I understand, freeing up a lot of money from Peytons contract will not be easily done. it won't be restructuring, it will be him taking a pay cut
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02-18-2009 , 02:51 PM
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from what I understand, freeing up a lot of money from Peytons contract will not be easily done. it won't be restructuring, it will be him taking a pay cut
Right, Peyton basically has to say, instead of the 13 mil and 2 prorated bonus I'm making, I want to make 1.2 mil (Vet min. I think) and 2. I just made up the numbers, but I think they're close enough for government work.
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02-18-2009 , 02:53 PM
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Really? Bill Polian a mortal lock for the HOF? He's been one of the top GM's in the league for the last decade but that's quite an overstatement.
Builds a four time super bowl (loser) team in Buffalo, then gets Carolina to the SB in their second year, then builds another perennial winner in Indy for a decade, all while rarely if ever missing a first round (2nd round has to be way above avg.) pick.

Yeah, he's in.
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02-18-2009 , 03:02 PM
Article about letting AH go. Can't agree more. As a Titans fan I think he will be a huge bust next year.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=514064
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02-18-2009 , 03:05 PM
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Really? Bill Polian a mortal lock for the HOF? He's been one of the top GM's in the league for the last decade but that's quite an overstatement.
In 84 and 85 the Bills put up back to back 2-14 seasons. Polian became GM after the 85 season, Hired Marv Levy in 86, Drafted Thurman Thomas in the 2nd round in 88 and the Bills became the best team in the AFC. Polian was fired after the 1993 season, Buffalo had gone 69-42 in his tenure and been to 3 straight superbowls. Expert move by Ralph Wilson and company. Buffalo made one more Superbowl the next year with the juggernaut Polian built, then crumbled.

In 1994 Polian took over the expansion Panthers and had them in the NFC championship game in their second season.

In 1998 He took over the Colts. and has basically nailed draft after draft after draft.
98: Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf
99: Edge James over Ricky Williams
01: Took Reggie Wayne when everyone screamed that they needed defense
02: Took Freeney, who was considered too small.
03: Clark
04: Traded down twice and took Bob Sanders in the 2nd round.

Bill Polian has won the NFL's Executive of the Year award 5 times (1988, 1991, 1995, 1996, and 1999). He is a Mortal lock for the HOF.
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