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12-13-2010 , 12:21 AM
the jets are 5th in ypc average. they are 3rd in carries. they are built to be a team that runs the ball a lot, win the time of possession battle, and let the running game carry them. tell me where a 5'8 180 pound danny woodhead fits into that
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12-13-2010 , 12:22 AM
GOODIE YOU WANT THE JETS TO ALTER THEIR ENTIRE OFFENSIVE PHILOSOPHY TO BETTER FIT THE NEEDS OF AN UDFA. do you see where this is possibly, just maybe, ******ed?
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12-13-2010 , 12:24 AM
lol
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12-13-2010 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
Goodie, you don't alter your system in hopes of getting more production from Danny Woodhead. You just don't.
I knew this would be the argument. And I'm not an expert in football. Not by a long shot. But it seems to me that the alteration would not need to be drastic by any means to get production out of a talented players like Woodhead. Clearly with the offense around him in NE, he's flourished but some of the plays they call in NE could be successful with the Jets offense as well. At least that makes sense to me. Am I wrong in that thinking?

And again, just to remind, AGAIN. Rex Ryan, who doesn't seems to ******** in press conferences, said himself, that he regretted letting him go. So, your own head coach, who's probably forgot a hundred times more than any of us know about football says it, but you're arguing that he's wrong? C'mon, man!!!!
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12-13-2010 , 12:26 AM
goodie, please tell me, what is the difference between the patriots offense and the jets offense, philosophy wise. then, using your best judgement, how does danny woodhead fit the system of the pats better then the jets.


the reason ryan regrets letting him go is because he found success with the patriots. you know, a division rival? if woodhead was having success with the eagles, do you think ryan would mind as much?
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12-13-2010 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Debo9
goodie, please tell me, what is the difference between the patriots offense and the jets offense, philosophy wise. then, using your best judgement, how does danny woodhead fit the system of the pats better then the jets.
You've misunderstood. Completely. My argument is not that Woodhead doesn't fit better in NE. That's incredibly obvious. That's just the reality of the Pats having a WAY better coach and a WAY better QB.

However, that does not mean that Woodhead couldn't have been successful on the Jets. You can honestly say that if the Jets called some of the same plays that the Pats called, that you're that confident that Woodhead wouldn't have some postive production?

Again, your telling me that your coach, Rex Ryan, is wrong?
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12-13-2010 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Debo9
the reason ryan regrets letting him go is because he found success with the patriots. you know, a division rival? if woodhead was having success with the eagles, do you think ryan would mind as much?
Can you quote me where he said that? If he did, I'll concede but from what I read, he just said that he regrets it. He doesn't say anything about it only being because he's having sucess on the Pats. I think your speculating.
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12-13-2010 , 12:33 AM
he might as well of had the same production. but then you are taking the ball out of the hands of santonio, LT, shonn greene, braylon, dustin keller. as a coach, would you really want to take the ball out of the hands of superior athletes and playmakers, so you could get the ball into danny woodheads hands?
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12-13-2010 , 12:35 AM
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You can honestly say that if the Jets called some of the same plays that the Pats called, that you're that confident that Woodhead wouldn't have some postive production?
The Bills should just call the same plays as the Pats and score a gazillion points a game.
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12-13-2010 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Debo9
he might as well of had the same production. but then you are taking the ball out of the hands of santonio, LT, shonn greene, braylon, dustin keller. as a coach, would you really want to take the ball out of the hands of superior athletes and playmakers, so you could get the ball into danny woodheads hands?
Maybe. The Jets offense has been horrendous as of late. Absolutely horrendous. Your not arguing from a position of strength in this line of thinking.

I'm certainly not saying that Woodhead would be the difference but there's really only one way to go with this offense and maybe that mistake was at least a small part of why the offense has been so bad.
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12-13-2010 , 12:38 AM
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The Bills should just call the same plays as the Pats and score a gazillion points a game.
I suppose your levelling but I do hope you see just how ridiculous this comment is.
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12-13-2010 , 12:40 AM
wait, you really just said the offense has been struggling these past 3 games, and part of that is because woodhead got shipped out in week 2 or 3?

LOL
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12-13-2010 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Debo9
he might as well of had the same production. but then you are taking the ball out of the hands of santonio, LT, shonn greene, braylon, dustin keller. as a coach, would you really want to take the ball out of the hands of superior athletes and playmakers, so you could get the ball into danny woodheads hands?
And I haven't looked at the numbers but do any of those guys have 355 yards rushing and 334 yards receiving because if you say he may have had the same production, you tell me how you wouldn't want that production on your team?
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12-13-2010 , 12:43 AM
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i was mostly poking fun about my woodhead comment.

goodie, danny woodhead does not fit into the jets system. hence why he was a practice squad guy for two years on this team, and finally let go. rex regrets getting rid of him because of the success he is having on the pats, not because he would of been a superstar player here given the chance. honestly, do you think woodhead would be able to carry the ball 15-20 times up the middle every game?
That's true -- the Jets need guys capable of running up the middle for 1-3 yards, 15-20 times a game. That's not a good fit for Woodhead.
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12-13-2010 , 12:43 AM
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wait, you really just said the offense has been struggling these past 3 games, and part of that is because woodhead got shipped out in week 2 or 3?

LOL
Um, yeah, What do you think I've been arguing? Was that not clear? You yourself said he may have had the same production and your saying 355 yards rushing and 335 yards recieving would not have helped the Jets? Are you high?
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12-13-2010 , 12:45 AM
so the offense was productive for multiple weeks after woodhead was let go, and now that they are struggling ~8 weeks after the fact, him being let go caused the offense to struggle.

that's really your argument?
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12-13-2010 , 12:45 AM
Well, Aaron Rodgers could possibly miss next Sunday's game against the Pats. It's his 2nd concussion this season, and could be a huge break for NE obv if he doesn't make it.
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12-13-2010 , 12:48 AM
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so the offense was productive for multiple weeks after woodhead was let go, and now that they are struggling ~8 weeks after the fact, him being let go caused the offense to struggle.

that's really your argument?
Uhhh, no. That's not my argument. I'm saying he could have helped your team. Listen, answer the question. YOU said that he could have produced the same for the Jets. You tell me -

Would you want 335 yards recieving and 355 yards rushing on your team? WOULD YOU?
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12-13-2010 , 12:52 AM
Absolutely I'd like that. Would I be getting it free, or does everytime Woodhead touch the ball, does Braylon not make a 50 yard catch down the sideline for the 2nd to last play of the Texans game, Santonio not make the game winning catch in the endzone of the Texans game, or the game winning touchdown catch in the Browns game, or the catch that won the game for them in the Lions game?

The fact is that if he was on this team, he would take the ball away from better playmakers. That's something I would not want for this team.
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12-13-2010 , 12:55 AM
thread needs more


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12-13-2010 , 12:56 AM
contract the jets FFS
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12-13-2010 , 12:58 AM
How the hell did this thread turn back into arguments about DWH?

Did anyone see how poorly Sanchize played today?
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12-13-2010 , 01:01 AM
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Absolutely I'd like that. Would I be getting it free, or does everytime Woodhead touch the ball, does Braylon not make a 50 yard catch down the sideline for the 2nd to last play of the Texans game, Santonio not make the game winning catch in the endzone of the Texans game, or the game winning touchdown catch in the Browns game, or the catch that won the game for them in the Lions game?

The fact is that if he was on this team, he would take the ball away from better playmakers. That's something I would not want for this team.
Wow, your really reaching now, Debo. No, of course not. But that type of production could certainly mean that they might not need any of those plays to win a game. It also might mean that the Jets score an offensive touchdown against the phins today and win the game.

Again, I haven't looked at the numbers but do all of the "playmakers" you mention have those types of numbers in only 11 games? I would be surprised if that was the case.

Therefore, Woodhead would be an upgrade to at least one of the "playmakers" you mention. Where am I wrong?
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12-13-2010 , 01:03 AM
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How the hell did this thread turn back into arguments about DWH?
That's me and Debo's fault. Sorry about that. I'm going to sleep very soon so you won't have to endure it much longer.
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12-13-2010 , 01:03 AM
JESUS CHRIST, CAN WE CUT THE WOODHEAD CRAP???? DANNY "THE PATRON SAINT OF CHOWDERHEAD NATION" WOODHEAD, WOULD HAVE BEEN BURIED ON THE JETS ROSTER AND NOT SEEN THE LIGHT OF DAY ON THE PLAYING FIELD BARRING INJURY. IS HE MAKING THE MOST OF HIS OPPORTUNITY IN NR? YEP. GOOD FOR HIM, GOOD FOR BB.
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