Everyone else: If everyone behaved like Rodgers, we'd likely lose 7 million people

You: Well, he's fine tho so whatevs

Literally everyone gets that Rodgers is fine and is very likely to survive if he gets covid. The concern is, as always, for those he may infect and the resources that takes up. Whataboutism regarding fatties doesn't change that. Two things can be a problem simultaneously.

i seem to recall a first lady encouraging ppl to eat healthy & exercise and ..... ppl took that well iirc

So Aaron infected more people than Davante? Do you have any evidence of this? The fact is both vaccinated and unvaccinated people can infect others. However, both are held to different standards and protocols. And literally everyone is eligible for the vaccine by now. If it greatly reduces your risk of death and hospitalization then it is their responsibility to get the vaccine if they want to safely go about public life if they are at risk. People who don't choose to get it are responsible for their choices and S.O.L if things go bad

Literally one of the best things any president's office has ever done. It was a great start and desperately needs to be taken many steps further. Instead we're offering free donuts in exchange for being vaccinated. The disconnect is so depressing.

I don't get how your not getting this and just using hindsight as if it proves your point

And on the 2nd point wasn't that an individual company that free donuts and was not a government mandate

Nope, not even a little bit regarding those two specific people. I can show you evidence that vaccinated people are less likely to spread covid than unvaccinated people, but I linked that earlier ITT, so my guess is if you cared to read it you already would've.

...because they infect others at different rates. That's literally the point.

Your inability to draw a line between "Arod's actions can and likely will harm others" and "Harming others is a bad thing" is pretty telling.

Who has the harder job: The GB team doctor or LFC's statistics teacher?

17 tds and 4 ints makes a medicore at best joke bad

I have never disputed that the vaccines are efficacious (if that was your point). What is downplayed everywhere is the role of diet and exercise in surviving Covid-19. Almost all deaths from Covid-19 for those under 65 are those with major health problems, most significantly being overweight.

The vast majority of doctors are well-intended, but don't appreciate the value of a healthy lifestyle in both preventing and surviving disease. In medical school, they are taught how to "fix" problems, but not how to help their patients avoid getting sick in the first place. "High chlosterol? Here's your pill!"

Well said! I couldn't agree more! You might want to read about certain socities in the world, where it is not uncommon for folks to live to be a 100, even without "modern" medicine.

The Packers' Statistics teacher.

While you're also completely wrong, you seem upset that a medical doctor is not a dietician or personal trainer. You get these are different professions, right?

Also life expectancy correlates quite highly with countries rated highly in Healthcare rankings.

A doctor should also be an expert in nutrition, in my opinion. It's called a Holistic Approach.

Quite so. But that doesn't change the fact that various subgroups within countries can have a much longer than average lifespan based on lifestyle choices.

Pfizer anti-viral and ivermectin are obviously not the same drugs. The Pfizer drug will be patented (if not already), while ivermectin's patent ran out years ago. As such the price for ivermectin is about $0.06 per dose. I do not know what the Pfizer anti-viral will cost but it can be reasonably assured the price will be much higher than $0.06.

Both ivermectin and Pfizer's anti-viral work at inhibiting certain enzymes, known as "protease" which enable a virus to spread in the human body. This is the basis of calling the Pfizer drug "pfizermectin", i,e. they are both protease inhibitors.

I can cite multiple studies showing the effectiveness of ivermectin but I won't clutter up the thread.

Generally speaking, healthy people avoiding the need of health care insititutions are probably doing something right.

Humor us please.

I know of two studies, one is a preprint and the other has major issues by their own admission.

Yeah polio and smallpox were good times. Don’t need those vaxxes - I have an immune system.

I really wouldn’t mind a reputable news source link or two that states that ivermectin or one of these covid pills are essentially the same thing as ivermectin. I can easily find reputable news sources when googling something like: pfizer developing covid pill ivermectin

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2R11T5

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/sc...om-ivermectin/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-067310377629

Why should I not trust these sources?

Ivermectin: Much More Than You Wanted To Know

Scott Alexander is about as smart and unbiased of an expert source (at least in how medical science works) as you can possibly get. Strangely I doubt the do your own research crowd will be very interested in this.

+1

being vaccinated also apparently reduces transmission


wild stuff huh guys

Anything that improves the immune system (e.g. Vitamin-C) can lessen the chance of being infected by a contagious disease.

by like 0.000000000001% probably

Come on now you know thats a massive reach.

The key to taking Vitamin C to ward off Covid and other evil spirits, is to take it alongside Zinc.

Being not fat and not grossly unhealthy also reduces chances of COVID being severe. Wild stuff. Mandate that ****

Who isn't eligible for the vaccine at this point though? And two things can be a problem simultaneously of course, but only of those things is being addressed and the other is being completely ignored.

Obesity and being grossly unhealthy takes up massive resources and has for years. It's literally been the single thing that takes up the most resources year after year over the past decade. Yet we haven't seemed to care about that or addressed it as a pandemic.