Huh? I haven’t noticed any big push by fans for them to get rid of Stafflahhh. He hasn’t won anything but he’s not horrible.

i did the research on this because i was curious.

the 4 recoveries, recovering team listed first

Giants vs. Cowboys (1:27 left in 4th Q)
- kick went straight off the center defender and back to the kicker

Bears vs. Giants (1:13 left in 4th Q)
- OBJ refused to dive for the recovery

Lions vs Bears (8:30 left in 4th Q)
- muffed, batted to keep in play and recovered

Jags vs Chiefs (5:46 left in 4th Q)
- pop up ten yards down center recovered by kicker

This is going to make that challenge flag infinitely more valuable.

Is everything else the same - including turnovers, scoring plays and inside 2 minutes handled by the booth?

Does OPI include pick plays?

Pandora's box is now open to judgment calls. But at least this can't happen away from the ball too much.

Imagine being able to challenge any off the ball non-call. I could see a team of people in the booth looking at the all-22 just waiting for the right time to challenge some obscure rule that the refs usually ignore or something. It could be like the tag review in baseball where it changes the game.

Or say a few over-anxious players run onto the far end of the field on a huge TD. I think you'd always need to whitelist which calls/non-calls are challengeable.

When the Royals beat the As in the wild card game - our players were literally in fair territory when Colon scored the winning run. It would be the Chiefest thing ever for us to finally win a huge playoff game and get called back for players running onto the field too soon.

Can you challenge PI on any play?

The CFL (lol I know) instituted it, and it severely slowed play down. Whenever any high leverage play happened it was just "well maybe the refs will bail us out let's throw the flag". It seriously deteriorates the "OMG WHAT A PLAY!!" aspect of the game when every big play is challenged

Well you still only get two challenge flags per game

One issue that was brought up is they review a PI but what if there turns out to have an offensive hold, do they just look at the dpi, or do they go further back?

I assume the challenging team still has to say exactly what they are challenging

Even now I think that if a team challenges for one reason, it's is possible for the ref to see something else and make a ruling based on that. However, that "something else" can only be certain things.

Could be totally wrong here though.

Can’t they just have a booth of replay guys with enough authority to step in to review if they believe they’ve possibly seen a major officiating error? Or one senior official to do it from above the field? Granted it’s a little tricky about where you draw the line between oversight and interference but that has to be better than ****ing teams out of playoff contention without recourse. I think we all more or less understand the difference between some typical OL hold or missed offsides call vs not calling a defender for a flagrant interference at that stage of the game, even if it’s just optics.

There's already too much PI as it is. Even if you can challenge a bad PI call, it's so rarely going to be overturned.

Kilf is on it

we do, but they have to put the rules into words. "I know it when I see it" isn't good enough to describe why you can overturn a missed pass interference but not a missed holding when both are penalties by the rules even if the first seemed "more flagrant"

**** it, let's just review every single play afterwards. We'll have 22 reviewers watching replays of every player on the field. 10 minute break between every play.

Actually, while we're at it, let's just eliminate variance all together. Every play is run from the beginning at least 10 times, then the average result is calculated for the next play.

Jordy retiring. Must've saved his money and just doesn't wanna play on the cheap.

If you're the Cards you should probably fore Kliff and say yea we ****ed up

Mark be down for hating this rule change. Yeah, it sucks the Saints were robbed of going to the Super Bowl last year, but there's a lot of other penalties that if called at the wrong time can cost a team a win just like what happened to Saints last year.

Seems like 4th and 15 from the 15 would be better but that messes up where team gets the ball ect. I think the onside rule is broken as is though.

i think the AAF had it about right. 4th and 12 from the 28. you can only do it within 5 minutes(i think) left in the 4th or anytime you are down 17+

eh, should be any time and any score and you can ALSO still onside kick.

Loved Jordy as a player....good career

The actual evidence is that pass interference (especially DPI) penalties are by far the biggest in swinging the outcome of a game, so they're probably the most important to get right

I think that leaves us with just one receiver left in the league from that class of 2008 (where ten receivers were drafted in the second round after none in the first).

I like the college penalty for DPI a lot more than the NFL, because of how swingy(and subjective) the NFL penalty can be. Seems like being able to review it will help a lot from that perspective but still think it's a penalty that helps the offense too much which can lead refs to be more hesitant to call it.

Pretty interesting. Only DJax (and maybe Garcon if some team signs him).

edit: Amendola also still active (was undrafted).

Greg Schiano resigns as Pats DC.

Interesting.