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2018 NBA finals: CLE @ GSW 2018 NBA finals: CLE @ GSW
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Cavs in 4
3 5.88%
Cavs in 5
1 1.96%
Cavs in 6
2 3.92%
Cavs in 7
1 1.96%
GSW in 4
15 29.41%
GSW in 5
24 47.06%
GSW in 6
4 7.84%
GSW in 7
1 1.96%

06-03-2018 , 09:24 PM
Just sorting by FTA is not really fair, GSW is near the bottom of the league in it despite being the best/most scoring team in the league. Hard to get calls when you throw up that many threes(somehow they still do).
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06-03-2018 , 09:25 PM
Don't understand why Swaggy p and Looney get minutes. Also Swaggy takes shots away from Curry, Durant, klay because he always spotting up and warriors look for the shooter. One thing I like about Draymond is he knows his role. Play defense and on offense set up the big 3 to score.
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06-03-2018 , 09:26 PM
Victor you know that isn't what I said but you're obviously flustered so I'll give you a pass. Missed calls happen on both ends throughout a basketball game, you're simply turning every perceived missed call against the Cavs into a mountain. You're also ignoring completely any potential missed calls against the Warriors.

The thing you accuse the refs of bias is the very same thing you're guilty of.
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06-03-2018 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkCheck
Don't understand why Swaggy p and Looney get minutes. Also Swaggy takes shots away from Curry, Durant, klay because he always spotting up and warriors look for the shooter. One thing I like about Draymond is he knows his role. Play defense and on offense set up the big 3 to score.
You can make a lot of sub-optimal decisions when you are the coach of a team that's got like 85% equity to win the game at tip-off.

They were switching Curry onto LeBron the entire 4th quarter last game.
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06-03-2018 , 09:27 PM
and its more the double standard. like, the whistle just automatically blows on contested warrior layups. the refs clearly arent even looking for contact. while it needs to be utterly blatant for the cavs to get a call. and if they make a layup there is no way its gonna be a foul.

with fair reffing this is a really close game. as is, the warriors have benefitted from conservatively about +8 from the refs. with robot perfect refs it would be like +14.
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06-03-2018 , 09:27 PM
so Wookie is gonna ignore that Lebron corner 3 pump fake and not come back until the Warriors are up by 25 in the 3rd to make a snide comment about how the Cavs would be willing if not for the refs?
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06-03-2018 , 09:28 PM
So they missed the Curry potential 3 FTs when like Lebron he was initiated contact and threw up a shot? What other calls did they miss Warrior Fans?
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06-03-2018 , 09:29 PM
don't get me wrong, Warriors are a superior team--they don't need anymore help to beat the Cavs in a 7 game series. i just find it stupid that they have to beat this bs as well.
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06-03-2018 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud
Victor you know that isn't what I said but you're obviously flustered so I'll give you a pass. Missed calls happen on both ends throughout a basketball game, you're simply turning every perceived missed call against the Cavs into a mountain. You're also ignoring completely any potential missed calls against the Warriors.

The thing you accuse the refs of bias is the very same thing you're guilty of.
uhh, dude, that is pretty much exactly what you said means.

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I know number of fouls doesn't tell the whole story but 13 to 5, 6 ft's to 15. Cavs have the advantage there. Cavs backers basically want free throws every trip. It's unrealistic. Refs getting ya'll to the line time to make some shots when you don't have the freebies.
like, you actually accused the refs of favoring the cavs. so its even worse. lololololololololololololl. the entitlement from warrior fans is truly astounding.
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06-03-2018 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
The Warriors have mostly shot 3's or uncontested layups.

This forum is like the worst place to pull bull**** like free throw count.

Let's just evaluate individual plays, that seems a lot more logical. this isn't bodybuilding.com/forum
Missed calls that hurt the Warriors included:

Failure to give Curry three FTs on the three pt attempt.

Livingston got fouled on one of his drives to the basket.

Durant got fouled on a shot he made (they showed the replay).

Curry got fouled on the floor when Love stuck his knee out.

I saw several calls go in the Warriors favor also, some of which were mentioned in the thread. Overall, the refs seemed average to bad, but not biased.
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06-03-2018 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
so Wookie is gonna ignore that Lebron corner 3 pump fake and not come back until the Warriors are up by 25 in the 3rd to make a snide comment about how the Cavs would be willing if not for the refs?
Right, which is why you need script ignore.
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06-03-2018 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
so if one team shoots more free throws and gets more fouls then it is impossible for there to be bad calls against them. makes sense. good talk.
If you argument is that any game with the Warriors that is officially loosely benefits the Warriors, so be it. But a lot of NBA games are officiated pretty loosely, with or without the Warriors. It is quite possible, and perhaps likely, that instead of this being a giant conspiracy against the Cavs, it is just standard NBA officiating.

And perhaps next game will be officiating differently and that will benefit the Cavs.
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06-03-2018 , 09:32 PM
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the cavs and lebron get that call exactly 0% of the time. you are a warrior fan so you are just used to it and expect it. but ppl who are used to watching an actualy fair competitive event are justifiably outraged.
James Harden has made a career out of getting that call all the time. Lol at pretending it's unusual.
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06-03-2018 , 09:33 PM


KEVIN LOVE FROM DOWNTOWN
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06-03-2018 , 09:33 PM
Wookie-the point is they call it there. Yet swallowed it when Lebron tried the same crap a few minutes later. How does this compute that it doesn't make any sense? The rules are they aren't supposed to call that crap anymore. Yet they did for Thompson. Players are not supposed to initiate contact into jumping blockers and they keep calling it one way.
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06-03-2018 , 09:34 PM
Lebron has checked out - I can't blame him.
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06-03-2018 , 09:34 PM
Here we go again warriors come out sloppy while cavs come out like they mean business.
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06-03-2018 , 09:35 PM
lol tech bro *******s
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06-03-2018 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
so Wookie is gonna ignore that Lebron corner 3 pump fake and not come back until the Warriors are up by 25 in the 3rd to make a snide comment about how the Cavs would be willing if not for the refs?
I was making dinner and didn't get a good look.
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06-03-2018 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
Wookie-the point is they call it there. Yet swallowed it when Lebron tried the same crap a few minutes later. How does this compute that it doesn't make any sense? The rules are they aren't supposed to call that crap anymore. Yet they did for Thompson. Players are not supposed to initiate contact into jumping blockers and they keep calling it one way.
Call on Klay's shot was a bad one in the Warriors favor. Jumping forward to try and draw a foul should be called an offensive foul. It's the only way to stop it from happening.
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06-03-2018 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pokergrader
If you argument is that any game with the Warriors that is officially loosely benefits the Warriors, so be it. But a lot of NBA games are officiated pretty loosely, with or without the Warriors. It is quite possible, and perhaps likely, that instead of this being a giant conspiracy against the Cavs, it is just standard NBA officiating.

And perhaps next game will be officiating differently and that will benefit the Cavs.
no dude. my argument is that the calls have disproportionately favored the warriors in this game. and that is after the refs straight up stole the last game from the cavs and gave it to the warriors.
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06-03-2018 , 09:37 PM
just atrocious defense
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06-03-2018 , 09:37 PM
Curry also initiated contact on the foul you keep saying "went the right" way. That was correctly not called and yet they still bailed them out.
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06-03-2018 , 09:37 PM
Andre the Giant killing the Cavs tonight.
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06-03-2018 , 09:37 PM
this is professional basketball, you really have no idea how to defend a simple pick and roll?
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