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06-28-2018 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Top coaches are worth as much as a top player, not sure how it goes for a fantasy draft but in general tis the case. No way Cj Mccollum is worth more than Brad Stevens, Snyder or Pop.
This is so untrue. What makes you think this? How come coaches aren't paid more per year if they are worth more? Paying coaches doesn't go against the salary cap either. I'd love to hear why you think this.
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06-28-2018 , 02:02 PM
Can't see the SS right now but Mikal Bridges is still avilly right?
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06-28-2018 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
other than pop and maybe brad i'm not sure what the impact of a coach really is other than perhaps negative impact. hell of the COY got fired. the guys who have won the last 4 titles aren't highly thought of. I guess there are a few more that are well thought of but I'd rather have a player. you can still get players will 5-7 win shares but they're old, most coaches won't have a 5-7 game impact to winning or 3-5 depending on what replacement level is considered. if we were going 10-12 rounds I'd be more likely to consider a coach. i could get at least a playoff rotation and one backup plus a coach.
For his example, would you rather the Blazers had McCollum/Stotts or "Top Coach"/Average NBA player? It's not even close.
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06-28-2018 , 02:04 PM
Yes he is.
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06-28-2018 , 02:06 PM
Brad is >>>>>Pop
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06-28-2018 , 02:06 PM
The maxim I’ve heard for coaching and gmming is that the top 5 and bottom 5 matter, but the rest don’t
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06-28-2018 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JumanjiBoard
For his example, would you rather the Blazers had McCollum/Stotts or "Top Coach"/Average NBA player? It's not even close.
Brad Stevens was picked around Kyrie, Gobert, Capela--I'd take the player over the coach 10/10 times when it comes to a 5 year window. If it's 15-20 year window than my decision changes. I'm not a huge fan of CJ, but I'd rather have Cp3, Harris and Turner over Pop especially when his window might be 2-3 more season at this point.

Around Snyder you had DSJ, Jae and Kelly--I'd be debating here. I'm not sure how good Quin really is.
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06-28-2018 , 02:09 PM
then i'll take Mikal Bridges

seems like a ready to go potential to be elite 3-D guy and i can't get my hand to fire on some 30 year old journeyman right now.

Kyrie Irving
Klay Thompson
Mikal Bridges
Kevin Love
DeAndre Jordan

Jusuf Nurkic
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06-28-2018 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
Brad Stevens was picked around Kyrie, Gobert, Capela--I'd take the player over the coach 10/10 times when it comes to a 5 year window. If it's 15-20 year window than my decision changes. I'm not a huge fan of CJ, but I'd rather have Cp3, Harris and Turner over Pop especially when his window might be 2-3 more season at this point.

Around Snyder you had DSJ, Jae and Kelly--I'd be debating here. I'm not sure how good Quin really is.
Where someone was picked does not make him a good pick though.
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06-28-2018 , 02:12 PM
I'm going to take a bench scorer, possible closer when he's on.

Dion Waiters, 26
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06-28-2018 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JumanjiBoard
Where someone was picked does not make him a good pick though.
I don't think Pop or Brad were tremendous values. I think the teams that drafted them are some of the worst in this. Like even if Daro high rolls Ayton, JB and Jamal Murray I'm not sure if he can beat the teams with a truly elite player.

Similarly Doncic + Pop just seems bad for top 2 picks and likewise Exo has a pretty poor team in this format, easily bottom 5 and that takes work to do when you turn down Kawhi, Lebron, Harden, KAT and Curry.
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06-28-2018 , 02:22 PM
My best guess is that 3-5 coaches should be picked, brad around the fourth, maybe one more in the seventh (probably Quinn), and then one or two or three or none in the last round
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06-28-2018 , 02:24 PM
Brad maybe the third actually, but you can’t justify the first two rounds. You’re talking about the difference in talent between like McCollum and redick

Last edited by aejones; 06-28-2018 at 02:25 PM. Reason: Redick is prob not THAT far from CJ at his absolute peak, but ofc five yr draft
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06-28-2018 , 02:41 PM
daro, kanman/tarheel, jmurder, RT, assani up. can skip in 45 min

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...h6s/edit#gid=0
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06-28-2018 , 02:49 PM
Quin should be in discussion for top coach itl

Hayward wath crappy before Snyder came, he was showing promise but never converted them Snyder come and boom All Star Hayward worth a max

Gobert was on the bench behind Kanter it took Snyder 10 games to give him playing time and 40 games later the Jazz traded Kanter, a top 5 pick with good stats. Gobert turned not only into a DPOY but also turned a man that can't score from more than 3 feet into an offensive weapon with the best pick & roll scheme after Mike D'Antoni

Joe Ingles was out of the league at 29 after just one 15 day contract, and 3 years later he's between top 50-75 player itw

He managed to make the Gobert/Favors pair and rotation works positively which is quite insane in modern NBA

In one season 27yo Ricky Rubio progressed more than in 6 with the Wilves

He's spending hours doing solo training sessions with Donovan Mitchell and watching tapes with him, if Mitchell was not picked by Utah he'd be far behind Tatum in ROY conversation

Goes twice in playoffs and missed another playoff qualification by 1 game because of 30 games missed by Gobert in a furious Western conference

Coachcaine is the man, give him 54 lottery picks and a city that can land free agents and he do as good as Brad

Pop could be out at any moment
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06-28-2018 , 02:52 PM
rubio got better?
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06-28-2018 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by guivre1408
Quin should be in discussion for top coach itl

Hayward wath crappy before Snyder came, he was showing promise but never converted them Snyder come and boom All Star Hayward worth a max

Gobert was on the bench behind Kanter it took Snyder 10 games to give him playing time and 40 games later the Jazz traded Kanter, a top 5 pick with good stats. Gobert turned not only into a DPOY but also turned a man that can't score from more than 3 feet into an offensive weapon with the best pick & roll scheme after Mike D'Antoni

Joe Ingles was out of the league at 29 after just one 15 day contract, and 3 years later he's between top 50-75 player itw

He managed to make the Gobert/Favors pair and rotation works positively which is quite insane in modern NBA

In one season 27yo Ricky Rubio progressed more than in 6 with the Wilves

He's spending hours doing solo training sessions with Donovan Mitchell and watching tapes with him, if Mitchell was not picked by Utah he'd be far behind Tatum in ROY conversation

Goes twice in playoffs and missed another playoff qualification by 1 game because of 30 games missed by Gobert in a furious Western conference

Coachcaine is the man, give him 54 lottery picks and a city that can land free agents and he do as good as Brad

Pop could be out at any moment


All hail coachcaine!
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06-28-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
other than pop and maybe brad i'm not sure what the impact of a coach really is other than perhaps negative impact.
lmao @ maybe brad. I’m sure your takes on coaches is better than hbob’s
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06-28-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JumanjiBoard
For his example, would you rather the Blazers had McCollum/Stotts or "Top Coach"/Average NBA player? It's not even close.
Golden state warriors with Mark Jackson was a second round playoff team while with Steve Kerr they became the best team in the nba, Cj Mcollum isn't doing that to any team in the nba. The Spurs were a 7th seed & 3 games away from being the third best team in the WEST with LMA & a bunch of league average players. Cj Mcollum & a bunch of league average players & a average coach is probably the worse team in the west.

Coach Budd took a team with:

-Jeff Teague
-Korver
-Carrol
-Millsap
-Horford

To the freaking 1st seed in the east, made 4 of those players allstars & they went to the eastern conference finals. You can try and convince yourself that Horford & Millsap are amazing players all you want but if you put Tyrone Lue as head coach they would probably barely even make the playoffs. Popovich, Brad, Snyder & Budd(can't spell his name & can't bother googling it) are worth more than any player outside of Lebron tbh. I'de rather have Popovich/Stevens/Snyder before even a player like Kevin Durant, that sounds like a hot take but what these coaches are doing with their rosters are more amazing than anything i've seen from KD thus far tbh.

A 30 year old Joe Ingles was taken high in this dynasty draft & if you guys think he would even get picked if he was on a team like Brooklyn you're out of your freaking mind.

Last edited by Exothermic; 06-28-2018 at 03:39 PM.
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06-28-2018 , 03:34 PM
Scalding Hot Take Alert

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06-28-2018 , 03:37 PM
Gsw coach still hasn’t been picked. You keep talking about Undrafteds. Mark Jackson is a terrible coach, undrafted is much less terrible but his backup coach who likely won’t be picked from a few years ago did extremely well for the warriors.

Exo, whatever your take is the opposite is likely right, remember that.
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06-28-2018 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Coach Budd took a team with:

-Jeff Teague
-Korver
-Carrol
-Millsap
-Horford

To the freaking 1st seed in the east
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06-28-2018 , 03:40 PM
Exo really is the worst.

UNDRAFTED after UNDRAFTED. All thread.
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06-28-2018 , 03:43 PM
Hot takes about undrafted people and wrong with those takes is rough.
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06-28-2018 , 03:43 PM
daro skipped. kanman/tarheel on clock. jmurder can pick at 445
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