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07-09-2008 , 01:45 PM
This is a newbe question, however when I see people posting their comments in the other forms I see them posting something like: 20/22 with 1.8 . What is that and how do you read it?

Second I play some (not nearly as much as I used to) on full tilt. What software do you recomend to give me posted stats on the players at my table.
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07-09-2008 , 02:23 PM
This is their VPIP/PFR AF where VPIP is the % of hands that they play, PFR is the % of hands that they raise before the flop and AF is aggression factor - a measure of their aggression after the flop.

BTW, you will never see 20/22 as that means they raise in more hands than they play which isn't possible, although some people do seem to try.

pokertracker
holdem manager
poker office
are a few programs that come to mind that show you these stats.
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07-09-2008 , 03:00 PM
EDIT: Sorry, Coner beat me to the post. I started typing this up like an hour ago before you had a reply, then I got sidetracked for awhile. It's worth clarifying on Coner's reply that VPIP is not every hand played, since AFAIK checked BB's aren't counted even though they're played to the flop. Also he's correct that 20/22 shouldn't be possible, which I didn't even catch.

Typically you see numbers like 20/22/1.8 it refers to VP$IP%/PFR%/AF. Those are the basic stats used to get a feel for someones' play.

These and the myriad other poker stats, and how they are calculated, are defined all over the web on sites and forums like this, and in tracker software documentation. Here's what those three mean in a nutshell:

VP$IP or just VPIP, refers to the percentage of hands where money was voluntarily put into the pot (blinds not included). The interpretations vary among players and their chosen strategies. Generally speaking, I consider above 30 as pretty loose, below 15 or so as very tight, approaching nitty. I'd say most conventional players generally want to be around 20 give or take, but some less conventional strategies or certain table conditions (lots of weak players, a hot run, etc.) might cause a good player's VPIP to run higher or lower than usual, particularly for a given session.

PFR is pre-flop raise percentage, i.e. what percent of hands the player raises pre-flop. Again, open to interpretation but much below 10 usually indicates a more passive or weak pre-flop playing style.

AF is aggression factor, a number which indicates the player's overall tendency to raise/re-raise. I think most consider 1.5 to be a minimum value for this, otherwise you're going to appear very weak and wind up getting run over a lot.

Last edited by Veteran68; 07-09-2008 at 03:05 PM.
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07-09-2008 , 09:28 PM
Thanks for the response. The information was very useful. Now I can understand what they are talking about a little better.
Thanks again.
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