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09-12-2007 , 04:56 PM
Any idea when the first pc beta is comeing out?
09-13-2007 , 03:00 AM
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Also, do you honestly believe that they've created a database that is better then some of the databases currently on the market? There is so much downside to this it really does not make any sense.
It doesn't need to be "better" - a commercial database must provide huge gobs of flexibility.
A database custom built for poker does not need to be flexible. It need only do exactly what it whas designed to do. The downside is that it takes a lot of resources and expertise to build and maintain it, for a commercial venture those resources are hard to come by - but if you have a Com Sci department in your back pocket, it's not so hard.
Fair enough...I still highly doubt that they were able to whip together a database that is more secure, more stable and faster then a database such as Postgres. All three of those are equally important for this application and I would bet anything they havent created a database that can beat Postgres in that regard.

I will tell you now, we will not be building our own database. That would be a nightmare...

-AP10
09-13-2007 , 03:02 AM
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Any idea when the first pc beta is comeing out?
We are shooting for a private alpha in early November, public beta by mid November and final release sometime in December. No dates have been finalized.

Best regards,

APerfect10
09-13-2007 , 11:04 AM
Make a function so that you can group people like 20-25vpip 10-25PFR and see result against thouse persons.
Not only total results, some EV calc and PreShowdownWon numbers would be great as well
09-16-2007 , 10:48 AM
How much $ for a new license &
how much $ if you have PT & Pahud
09-16-2007 , 11:15 AM
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How much $ for a new license &
how much $ if you have PT & Pahud
The actual pricing has not yet been determined. There will be some type of schedule where upgrading users will get a discount based on how long ago they purchased PT/PAH.

Best regards,

APerfect10
09-16-2007 , 12:18 PM
1. I would like to see something done that could easily output tax data in a table form. I currently use 1 day = 1 session, but any reasonable definition would be good for me. If this isn't doable, I would like to see +/- one day buttons on the preferences/specific date field to help me do my taxes. Frankly I suspect if PT defined a session in a certain manner with many of us using it for our tax data, the IRS might fall in line and remove the uncertainity regarding a "session."

2. Easier ability to analyze opponent's play by position.

Doc
09-16-2007 , 01:48 PM
Whats the word for MAC OSX support? Will it be compatible with the first release?
09-16-2007 , 03:17 PM
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How much $ for a new license &
how much $ if you have PT & Pahud
The actual pricing has not yet been determined. There will be some type of schedule where upgrading users will get a discount based on how long ago they purchased PT/PAH.

Best regards,

APerfect10
how does the length of time owning PT/hud affect the discount?

I've owned a license for over 2 years, does that give me more of a discount than someone who bought 5 months ago? or less of a discount?

I don't get that at all.
09-16-2007 , 03:36 PM
I own PT but not PA. Discount?
09-16-2007 , 05:19 PM
not having read the thread, are there going to be different versions of PT again?
PT:O, PT:H, PT:S?

or combined?
09-16-2007 , 07:51 PM
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How much $ for a new license &
how much $ if you have PT & Pahud
The actual pricing has not yet been determined. There will be some type of schedule where upgrading users will get a discount based on how long ago they purchased PT/PAH.

Best regards,

APerfect10
how does the length of time owning PT/hud affect the discount?

I've owned a license for over 2 years, does that give me more of a discount than someone who bought 5 months ago? or less of a discount?

I don't get that at all.
Any software upgrade programs I have seen in the past gave purchasers a discount based on how recently they purchased the license. The reasoning is that recent purchasers have gotten very little use and hence little value for the price they paid originally. Those who purchased a long time ago have already gotten full value for the price they paid. Recent is usually defined as something in the 1-6 month range. Often, those who purchased in the last month or two are given a free upgrade. I expect that the PT3 upgrade program will be something similar.
09-17-2007 , 12:28 AM
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How much $ for a new license &
how much $ if you have PT & Pahud
The actual pricing has not yet been determined. There will be some type of schedule where upgrading users will get a discount based on how long ago they purchased PT/PAH.

Best regards,

APerfect10
how does the length of time owning PT/hud affect the discount?

I've owned a license for over 2 years, does that give me more of a discount than someone who bought 5 months ago? or less of a discount?

I don't get that at all.
Any software upgrade programs I have seen in the past gave purchasers a discount based on how recently they purchased the license. The reasoning is that recent purchasers have gotten very little use and hence little value for the price they paid originally. Those who purchased a long time ago have already gotten full value for the price they paid. Recent is usually defined as something in the 1-6 month range. Often, those who purchased in the last month or two are given a free upgrade. I expect that the PT3 upgrade program will be something similar.
Good explanation and you are correct.

-AP10
09-17-2007 , 12:29 AM
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not having read the thread, are there going to be different versions of PT again?
PT:O, PT:H, PT:S?

or combined?
Combined into one application but probably separate pricing.

-AP10
09-17-2007 , 12:31 AM
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I own PT but not PA. Discount?
Depending on the length of time you owned PT. You would get discounted for the PT portion of the program but not for the PAH portion. Like I previously said, nothing has been decided and set in stone.

-AP10
09-17-2007 , 12:32 AM
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Whats the word for MAC OSX support? Will it be compatible with the first release?
Yes, PokerTracker 3 will natively support OSX. Please see this thread for PT3 OSX discussion.

Best regards,

APerfect10
09-17-2007 , 09:23 AM
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Combined into one application but probably separate pricing.
Perfect.
09-17-2007 , 09:52 AM
Probably been mentioned before, but a way to see the hands you've played against someone would be nice. I'll meet someone on the forums and I want to see if we've played any pots together but it's just way too time consuming to have to look through the hands you have on your opponent and look to see if you were involved in the pot.
09-17-2007 , 10:10 AM
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Probably been mentioned before, but a way to see the hands you've played against someone would be nice. I'll meet someone on the forums and I want to see if we've played any pots together but it's just way too time consuming to have to look through the hands you have on your opponent and look to see if you were involved in the pot.
dont have pt at my work... but if u go misc tab and the lost to lost from part... click on a name. isnt it like that all the hands u played against that screenname are displayed below?
09-17-2007 , 10:12 AM
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Probably been mentioned before, but a way to see the hands you've played against someone would be nice. I'll meet someone on the forums and I want to see if we've played any pots together but it's just way too time consuming to have to look through the hands you have on your opponent and look to see if you were involved in the pot.
dont have pt at my work... but if u go misc tab and the lost to lost from part... click on a name. isnt it like that all the hands u played against that screenname are displayed below?
That is correct. You can do this in the current version of PokerTracker. One thing I would like to add to the HUD is the ability to add these numbers so that you can view them in game.

Best regards,

APerfect10
09-17-2007 , 01:35 PM
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I own PT but not PA. Discount?
Depending on the length of time you owned PT. You would get discounted for the PT portion of the program but not for the PAH portion. Like I previously said, nothing has been decided and set in stone.

-AP10
Will you continue to support the original PT and PAHUD?

I've owned PT since 2004 and PAHUD for quite a while too... not sure if I am interested in buying new licenses. Maybe if it includes Omaha support as well.
09-17-2007 , 01:37 PM
Yes, we will still support the current version of PT and PAHud. Obviously support will eventually be phased out but that is probably a ways down the road. We have not really discussed how long the current versions will continue to be supported.

Best regards,

APerfect10
09-17-2007 , 09:31 PM
It would be nice if we could display vpip% pfr% and other stats based on the players position at the table. I've got 1000 hands on some people but I know their percentages vary based on where they are relative to the button.

sorry if this has been suggested there was way too much whining to wade through it all.
09-18-2007 , 04:33 AM
Apologize if this has been mentioned, I only read through the first 1/3 or so of the thread.

I did see this alluded to, but I want to emphasize how awesome it would be to have some kind of plugin framework that would allow developers to extend PT functionality; there are a lot of smart programmers here, as evidenced by all the poker applications and AHK scripts that have been written, and it would help you guys out too since it adds new features to the software without any more work on your part. A lot of features people are mentioning could just be implemented this way, like an HH converter/exporter for forum use or graphing tools. Obviously there are security concerns that need to be addressed so that users' data couldn't be compromised by a rogue plugin, but I think this would go a long way towards making PokerTracker a true "next-generation" poker analysis tool.
09-18-2007 , 11:06 PM
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It would be nice if we could display vpip% pfr% and other stats based on the players position at the table. I've got 1000 hands on some people but I know their percentages vary based on where they are relative to the button.

sorry if this has been suggested there was way too much whining to wade through it all.
Done

-AP10

      
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