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12-04-2016 , 09:35 PM
Hi all, I am a little confused to why there is so little information available on comparison between different software supporting grinders and pros to multi table. There are lots of different options to go with, but very limited feedback on usability both from 2+2 forum and elsewhere. Can you please share your experience with different tools and what are the advantage of one tool over another. I've heard of StackandTile, TableNinja, TableOtptimizer, TableTamer, SessionLord, TableDroid, etc. Can you comment on usability of any of these?

Multitabling grinders and pros, please speak out
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12-08-2016 , 07:11 PM
I have just recently started using TableTamer and StackandTile. I tried table tamer first and did enjoy using it. Then I started to run into problems with my bets not being the right amounts after playing for awhile. I got frustrated and decided to try out Stackandtile. But it was missing my most favorite feature of tabletamer which was the custimized bet hotkeys and the preformed bet amounts on the buttons the table already has. I am now back to trying to get tabletamer working 100%.

Also, I would love to be able to try tableninja but WPN is not supported...
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12-08-2016 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bengalvfan
I have just recently started using TableTamer and StackandTile. I tried table tamer first and did enjoy using it. Then I started to run into problems with my bets not being the right amounts after playing for awhile. I got frustrated and decided to try out Stackandtile. But it was missing my most favorite feature of tabletamer which was the custimized bet hotkeys and the preformed bet amounts on the buttons the table already has. I am now back to trying to get tabletamer working 100%.

Also, I would love to be able to try tableninja but WPN is not supported...
Thanks for feedback!!! WPN? Did you by chance mean VPN? Why not?

Also, what do you mean you bet sizes were not correct? did the program screw it??
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12-09-2016 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bengalvfan
I got frustrated and decided to try out Stackandtile. But it was missing my most favorite feature of tabletamer which was the custimized bet hotkeys and the preformed bet amounts on the buttons the table already has.
StackAndTile has hotkeys for "Bet x BB" which does what it says, and also "BetSize1-5" which will click the preset betsize buttons that are on the table already. Not sure if those were what you were looking for
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12-10-2016 , 01:51 PM
I am using StackandTile demo version for the last 3 days and it is becoming extremely annoying to use it the longer the more. The problem occurs when you start to play 8+ tables. In the last several session when I play 10 tables, be it cash or MTT, software keeps jumping from table to table even if there is no action on that particular table, now when I try to move to a table where there is action it puts me back to a useless table and I have a lot less time for my decision making where I need it. TBH this happens when I use plain tile without stacking as I use either 5 slots (with 2 overlaps) or 10 slots placed on a window. it doesn't occure on Stack and tile option, but Stack and tile option is also a little uncomfortable, as tables are not moving back to the stack when I call or raise at a table. It stays on the right side until the hand is over. All in all, I might be misusing some of the advanced options here to arrive at the problems I have, but so far experience wasn't too positive.
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12-13-2016 , 11:17 AM
Sorry I missed this response.

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Originally Posted by Agharazi
I am using StackandTile demo version for the last 3 days and it is becoming extremely annoying to use it the longer the more. The problem occurs when you start to play 8+ tables. In the last several session when I play 10 tables, be it cash or MTT, software keeps jumping from table to table even if there is no action on that particular table, now when I try to move to a table where there is action it puts me back to a useless table and I have a lot less time for my decision making where I need it. TBH this happens when I use plain tile without stacking as I use either 5 slots (with 2 overlaps) or 10 slots placed on a window. it doesn't occure on Stack and tile option,
Hrmmmm, it sounds to me like SaT is incorrectly thinking that those other tables require action. This is the most common problem, and is usually a setup issue. However, if this were the case, the problem would occur in both 'Tile' and 'Stack and Tile' modes.

Can you temporarily change your settings and run this Test and let me know the results? Then I can help you fix this.

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly


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Originally Posted by Agharazi
but Stack and tile option is also a little uncomfortable, as tables are not moving back to the stack when I call or raise at a table. It stays on the right side until the hand is over.
Yeah, by default, the tables stay in the grid until you click Fold. This way you can see the entire hand and all of the action.

Instead, you seem to want the tables to return to the stack after every decision. That's possible too, its just not the default. Use the menu item for "Settings -> Advanced Options" and on the first tab, you'll see a checkbox for "Clicking call or bet also stacks the table". Turn that on. Alternatively, if you're using the hotkeys, use the hotkeys with the "+Stack" designation, for example "Call + Stack", instead of the plain old "Call" hotkey.


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All in all, I might be misusing some of the advanced options here to arrive at the problems I have, but so far experience wasn't too positive.
Fair enough. It is difficult for me because software like this is so personal. Each and every user has their own quirks and playstyle and requirements. So I run into two issues: 1. choosing sensible defaults just to get players acclimated to the new idea, and then 2. making the other options visible and explained and documented properly on the website. These issues are non-trivial, and I have a new found respect for user-interface-design because its very hard to do properly. This image always comes to mind:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...fb80a9b055.jpg
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