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04-20-2008 , 04:28 AM
I'd be very grateful if one of you wiz coded the following script:

A timer that does not allow me to check/call/bet in the first 5 seconds when the decision buttons appear. Or even better, which records the decision if it's entered in the first 5 seconds and delays the clicking.

This will hopefully cut down my timing tells by a lot. Feasible?
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04-20-2008 , 08:13 AM
would be sexy. Or somehow make a bet 4-10sec randomly. Id throw in some $ for this.
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04-20-2008 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by iSTRONG
I'd be very grateful if one of you wiz coded the following script:

A timer that does not allow me to check/call/bet in the first 5 seconds when the decision buttons appear. Or even better, which records the decision if it's entered in the first 5 seconds and delays the clicking.

This will hopefully cut down my timing tells by a lot. Feasible?
Use BetPot. Edit betpot_default_hotkeys.ahk as follows:
Code:
Joy3::  ;Change to the button of your choice
Sleep, 5000  ;Sleeps for 5 seconds
Fold(getid())
return
Just copy and paste the "Sleep, 5000" just above every subroutine action.
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04-20-2008 , 11:27 AM
NYJ,

Sick. thanks. will try it out.
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04-20-2008 , 12:22 PM
I'd be pretty wary of doing this as there is a good chance you'll trigger sites bot-detection heuristics. One of the more obvious ways to detect bots is to create a statistical model of known human players' timing in certain different contexts and then look for players who deviate significantly from the model.

New York Jet's method prolly won't effect this too much (as you'll just be adding 5 seconds to every action), but attempting to code up something that either uses a fixed or uniform-random delay for all actions (no matter how soon you press the button) is asking for problems IMO...

Juk
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04-20-2008 , 03:00 PM
nice! possible to come up with the random delay , maby like 3-10seconds w/e ? Or will it take alot of coding.
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04-20-2008 , 06:42 PM
Bet Timer is very nice. It wont stop you from clicking but you always know how much time has passed on each table.
http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/BetTimer
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04-20-2008 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by baaard
nice! possible to come up with the random delay , maby like 3-10seconds w/e ? Or will it take alot of coding.
Pretty easy to apply the above mentioned BetPot modification, but to make it a random time, like this:

Code:
Joy3::  ;Change to the button of your choice
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Fold(getid())
return
It will however take a great deal of coding to prevent you from timing out if you act very late and it picks the longest time... I guess in that case you should manually act rather than use the randomly delays actions
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04-21-2008 , 12:30 AM
Ok. I tried NYJ's method but it didn't really achieve what i wanted... The problem is that the delay is on the bet input into the text box. So I right click the mouse, and have to wait 5 secs before clicking bet. Not very practical if multitabling.

What i need is a delay after i click check/call/or bet (not necessary for fold). So that i can do my action and move on to the next table. Would this trigger bot detection? How would it be different from NYJ's solution in terms of what partypoker security staff would see on their end?
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04-21-2008 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by iSTRONG
Ok. I tried NYJ's method but it didn't really achieve what i wanted... The problem is that the delay is on the bet input into the text box. So I right click the mouse, and have to wait 5 secs before clicking bet. Not very practical if multitabling.

What i need is a delay after i click check/call/or bet (not necessary for fold). So that i can do my action and move on to the next table. Would this trigger bot detection? How would it be different from NYJ's solution in terms of what partypoker security staff would see on their end?
yeah I thought of this after I posted.

You need to getid() before the delay. something like:
Code:
Joy3::  ;Change to the button of your choice
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Fold(table_id)
return
This may or may not work... not tested, but it *should* be better.

Of course, Fold() is only an example. All BetPot functions use getid(), and can be edited as such to achieve a delay effect.
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04-21-2008 , 01:06 AM
_dave_,

Thx for the help mate.

I tried it and it basically does the same thing as NYJ's solution (except for the randomisation of the delay...)

Code:
~MButton::
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Pot(getid(),"1 1 1 1", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return

F18::
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Pot(getid(),"1 0.8 0.8 0.8", "smallblind", 0, 0)
return

^MButton::
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Pot(getid(),"1", "smallblind", 0, 0)
return

^!MButton::
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Pot(getid(),"999", 1, 0, 0)
return

~RButton::
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Pot(getid(),"0.70 0.70 0.70 0.60", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return
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04-21-2008 , 01:16 AM
iSTRONG,

replace the getid() with table_id in the Pot() function calls - then it will work as I intended/posted.
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04-21-2008 , 01:30 AM
you mean?

Code:
~RButton::
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Pot(table_id,"0.70 0.70 0.70 0.60", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return
'cause that still does the same thing. Sorry if i misunderstood you. These scripts are like chinese to me.
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04-21-2008 , 01:38 AM
Yes, that is what I mean.

This version *should* get the "table_id" (table under the mouse pointer) when you click, rather than after the timer has expired.
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04-21-2008 , 01:45 AM
the problem w/ both this version and NYJ's version is that the delay is between me right clicking the mouse and the amount being automatically entered in the txt box. So i have to wait before i can click the bet button.

What i need is for the software the record my decision and then after 5 seconds actually do what it recorded. I'm probably not explaining myself well.




Normal bet pot script:
user right clicks mouse --> betpot calculates amount to raise and enter it in the client's amount to bet txt bot --> user left clicks "BET" button to confirm action

What the script is doing with NYJ or your version:
user right clicks mouse --> DELAY --> betpot calculates amount to raise and enter it in the client's amount to bet txt bot --> user left clicks "BET" button to confirm action

What i'm suggesting:
user right clicks mouse --> betpot calculates amount to raise and enter it in the client's amount to bet txt bot --> user left clicks "BET" button to confirm action --> DELAY --> betpot script actually presses the button for you.
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04-21-2008 , 01:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iSTRONG
the problem w/ both this version and NYJ's version is that the delay is between me right clicking the mouse and the amount being automatically entered in the txt box. So i have to wait before i can click the bet button.

What i need is for the software the record my decision and then after 5 seconds actually do what it recorded. I'm probably not explaining myself well.
You explain yourself perfect... It only now becomes obvious the problem.

Turn on "autobet":

Code:
~RButton::
table_id := getid()
Random, r, 3000, 6000
Sleep, %r%  ;Sleeps randomly between 3 and 6 seconds
Pot(table_id,"0.70 0.70 0.70 0.60", "smallblind", "ssnl", 1)
return
(autobet is the last number in the Pot functions. I should have noticed earlier
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04-21-2008 , 01:56 AM
it works perfect. sick job. as always. _dave_ for mod.

Is there anyway to make it work for call/check as well?
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04-21-2008 , 06:36 PM
_dave_,

in betpot_default_hotkeys.ahk

There are quite a few different options for several buttons. Could you give me a quick description of what each of em is?

For example i know that R~Button is "mouse right click" and ~MButton is "mouse left click"

but what's:
F18::
^MButton::
^!MButton::
F13::
^F14::
F14::
F15::
F16::
^F15::
^F16::

Is this documented anywhere?
Thanks/.
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04-21-2008 , 07:39 PM
Documentation is here and here. The symbols in front of the keys are modifiers for example ^ indicates that you need to hold down control while pressing the key. Mbutton is the middle button on your mouse (maybe). Just press down on the wheel. I am not sure how F13 through F16 are used.
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04-21-2008 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dread Wings
Documentation is here and here. The symbols in front of the keys are modifiers for example ^ indicates that you need to hold down control while pressing the key. Mbutton is the middle button on your mouse (maybe). Just press down on the wheel.
Spot on. The ! is "hold down ALT" - so ^!MButton:: (which if memory serves me is an unconditional shove of 999x the pot) is Hold down CTRL+ALT while click middle mouse (wheel).

Kinda like a tilt-shove, similar to CTRL+ALT+DELETE to cure tilt when the computer is freezing up
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I am not sure how F13 through F16 are used.
These "fake" F-Keys are available on really old keyboards, but omre commonly they can be mapped to extra mouse buttons by using SetPoint+UberOptions for Logitech mouse, or on gamepads with their various driver softwares.

If you have a logitech mouse, I posted some how-to pics to enable extra buttons to the F13+ keys recently in the main betpot thread.
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04-22-2008 , 11:15 AM
awesome.

Been using this modded version of betpot and i love it so far. Only one caveat: Would it be complicated to add some code to overide the delay automatically if I'm running out of time?
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