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To Omahaha - I meant I agree with jeztuck on the how and why of what's happening on PS. Like you I would prefer both mtts to run. I don't see the same downside in no 215 as previous winners do I guess but I don't agree that it will be higher variance or worse opportunity for reg winners. A bigger field and lower stakes = more fish, recs and less focus from everyone else, potentially. Any good run will guarantee ITM with a 350 + field and 1st will still be very healthy, prob at least as much as it is now. DuFisch has right idea

Highly doubt that!


Around May+- they lowered the GTD for most o8 mtt's. Their excuse was' football season & Wsop'. (yet the gtd's always hit the number that was needed & even more)

Fyi, they excluded alot of country's from playing on stars (=the real reason)

After all these months the GTD is still the same.

I hear what you are saying and I apologise if I am coming across as aggressive in my view point but it is something I feel will prove to be detrimental for the o8 economy mainly for bigger picture reasons.

As a rule more players equals more variance regardless to some degree of the level of play.

At the moment it is just about possible to play an o8 schedule and make fairly decent money especially if you mix in some other stuff. Cuts to buy ins as someone already mentioned means a cut in hourly profits for winning players but this is not my main rational for being against the proposed cut.

It was not so long ago that I did not play them and I used to feel really excited when I played my first few and they were something to work up to. I am not sure I would have bothered picking up a game without some kind of growth potential.

They may not be massive fields at the moment but they attract some great players from other poker forms who may not bother buying into an $82 MTT and are not always the best o8 players but have interesting styles. Sometimes if you want to want to become a better player you have to play against good player and having bigger buy in mtts helps achieve this.

In addition they play differently from the smaller stuff and are really good preparation for WCOOPS FTOPS ect. Without them the o8 schedule feels incomplete and somewhat blander.

This sure looks like a nevery ending story.

I honestly don't understand how the new big boy's can take so little care about the community who feeds and built their life's around them.

The strange thing is that they remove a tourney who was profit intsted of making it a bit more exciting with a High/Mid weekly or just have them both?

But tbh the ppl who decide structures and types of tourneys for events/weeklys can't be playing any type of card game Imo, they run expensive events in structures and forms wich u don't find in any tournament besides the expensive event for the whole year talk about a feald killer.

They need to shape up on every level, but removing the big weeklys is just another step backwards.

I would love to help the guys on ps out, how hard can it be to make a decent schedule?

Common guys...

Keep the 82's put 215$ however....fill them with good sattelites but none of those that sng players can grind.If you unreg , you get a ticket for next week or something.

How was Sunday with the 82$? Despite running like **** I enjoyed the bigger fields and reduced buyins.

in my opinion the structure of the weekly nlo8 is way too deep now with 5000 starting stack and 15min level and such small blind level jumps. it took 10 hours with 282 players.

Its a very good structure dude.

I believe they've put the $215's back and kept the $82's aswell

too good of a structure means the fish will get scared away when the same 10 players make the final 18 each week.

Does it scare you away?

Great to see the Weekly 215's back again!

However I think both the time changes and the lack of any MTT satellites are both substantial mistakes.

I really hope they gain traction again.

True, they are a bit too early now.
Setting them back 1h could make a difference. Let's make Bryan aware of this?

So happy to see them back Would have never bet that they're actually bringing them back. Good job Stars (Y)