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01-19-2010 , 12:34 PM
"rush" PLO8 at FTP
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01-19-2010 , 06:29 PM
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01-19-2010 , 06:55 PM
crazy game/format.... i wonder if ftp will do it for omaha
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01-19-2010 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperHog
"rush" PLO8 at FTP
They figured out a way to increase their rake by immediately shunting you to a new table if you don't like your starting hand. The approach would seem to reduce the need of multi-tabling. And maybe you avoid tight, nitty, multi-tablers. (Instead, you get tight, nitty, fast-folders).

Meh.

Is it already in place for Omaha-8, or is it just used for Texas hold 'em at this time?

Buzz
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01-19-2010 , 07:53 PM
It was just in place for holdem. Originally it was only for stakes up to $50nl, but now $100nl has just been added.
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01-19-2010 , 08:15 PM
theres not enough player base to do a Rush PLO8/NLO8.... think more likely PLO though
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01-20-2010 , 12:03 AM
lol at this....we cant fill up a couple tables at low/medium stakes, but think this will work?
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01-20-2010 , 12:27 AM
people like deggening pred, so who knows?
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01-20-2010 , 12:49 AM
I gave away 5 buyins at it today.

Not sure if it has any legs beyond NL/PLO. It seems as though it could be a rakeback nits dream.........
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01-20-2010 , 09:06 AM
this loo0ks sick
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01-20-2010 , 10:44 AM
I don't think there are enough players. I guess it might still work with only 30 players without too much delay. PLO8 adds the difficulty of stack sizes becoming much more relevant and in Rush they change each hand. I also don't like the idea of adding a feature to encourage people to play tighter. Why play a marginal speculative hand when you can Quick Fold and get a better one?

I played about 120 hands of NL100 Rush and saw about 7 Flops. I stole the blinds in about 15. I earned FTPs at a much lower rate on a per hand basis, but a higher hourly rate than 3 or 4 tabling. It will probably replace SuperTurbo SnGs as my "I need to quickly earn 26 FTPs to get my 200 for the day" game.
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01-20-2010 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by luvrhino
I also don't like the idea of adding a feature to encourage people to play tighter. Why play a marginal speculative hand when you can Quick Fold and get a better one?

I played about 120 hands of NL100 Rush and saw about 7 Flops. I stole the blinds in about 15. I earned FTPs at a much lower rate on a per hand basis, but a higher hourly rate than 3 or 4 tabling. It will probably replace SuperTurbo SnGs as my "I need to quickly earn 26 FTPs to get my 200 for the day" game.
I 100% disagree with this. On a hand by hand basis, you are still playing too few hands by doing that. Obv the other people at your table don't know unless they randomly get sat at a lot of tables with you but you are still giving up value by not playing enough hands. Also, if everyone else is tight, play loose.
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01-20-2010 , 03:47 PM
PLO25 is running and there is a tab for omaha hi/lo.
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01-20-2010 , 03:57 PM
purely because I'm curious....how do they handle having each player pay an equal share of the blinds.
or perhaps easier to answer, (to those that have played)....did you pay about the same number of blinds as if you played the same number of hands at a single table?
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01-20-2010 , 04:05 PM
i messed around shortstacking the rush tables , they are practically made for shortstacking since you can leave the table whenever you want and rejoin back at the min buyin. so i did this 4-6 tabling and ran horribly under EV, though still managed to break even. but made a very nice 200+$ in rakeback in maybe 8-9 hours of playing? if i can run a little better this seems like a nice mindless way to make money
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01-20-2010 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by niceguysFT
purely because I'm curious....how do they handle having each player pay an equal share of the blinds.
or perhaps easier to answer, (to those that have played)....did you pay about the same number of blinds as if you played the same number of hands at a single table?
The blinds go to the people who have gone the longest span without posting a blind.
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01-20-2010 , 07:52 PM
this format would work well for NLO8.

to those saying that people would play less speculative starting hands, WRONG. people still get married to TPGK at these rush tables, and yesterday i flopped a q-high flush and got some guy put in over 250 bb's with a dry overpair. what makes you think people will suddenly learn how to fold bad flushes/naked low draws etc just because they can quick fold their hand and get a new one??
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01-20-2010 , 08:05 PM
right now theres 300 players doing the PLO Rush 10/25..... i'll probably give it a shot...just one BI
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01-20-2010 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by atty622
The blinds go to the people who have gone the longest span without posting a blind.
Source? I've had runs of 4 or 5 hands in a row posting a blind.
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01-20-2010 , 09:21 PM
Yeah the blinds seem pretty spotty, but I am so addicted.
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01-20-2010 , 09:36 PM
According to the Full Tilt demo video 'its random. I guess you can run bad and get the BB 10 times in a row, or go 100 without posting either blind. (Both very unlikely obv) A new level of rigged perhaps?
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01-21-2010 , 11:44 AM
I think I understand this from the context of reading the thread, but can someone explain if I've missed anything (sorry if this is too nooby a question . . . but I haven't played at Full Tilt for awhile).

So basically the way this works is, if you are at a 'rush' table, when you fold, you get moved to a new table that is already about to deal cards, instead of having to wait out the hand in play?

Is everyone at these tables 'rushing' or are some people staying put? Do they take the 9 most recent folds and put them all at a table that starts right away?

Seems like there is some disagreement about the blinds, but the guy who said it's all random sounded more convincing . . .

Also, playing one 'rush' table is equivalent of 3-4 tabling? Someone else posted that they just broke even - is that because of running bad, or is there something about it that makes it 'harder' to play?

Thanks for any insight, sounds interesting - is Stars considering doing anything like this?
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01-21-2010 , 12:49 PM
Full Tilt offer it at play money. If you dont have any $ on tilt and just want to try it out, do that. Best way to understand it.
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01-21-2010 , 01:22 PM
I read somewhere that the person on the table who hasn't posted the blind in the longest time posts it. I doubt full tilt have it in for certain players by making them post 2x the amount of blinds as anyone else.
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01-21-2010 , 02:28 PM
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I read somewhere that the person on the table who hasn't posted the blind in the longest time posts it. I doubt full tilt have it in for certain players by making them post 2x the amount of blinds as anyone else
Gambling? Makes perfect sense to me
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