Because bad players fold to your wide raises at the higher blind levels? Love how obviously the "best" players slam ai wide, exploiting the importance of fold equity at these higher blind levels.

Not a bad strat, but not a lot of skillful poker. Deep stack play involves so much more decision making and skill. Guess that is why these things attract so many bad players and regs.

Well duh. At the FT this is kinda the objective and optimal strat in alot of spots.

Min raise or limp fold is better with <10bbs is it when winning blinds increases your stack by 30% often?

The alternative strategy is not applicable to short stack poker.

Sigh. You have a lot to learn. Exploiting people is a skill. That is the objective of poker. If people make more -ev plays than you, that means you win.

You apply the correct strategy for the situation. You wouldn't apply deep stacked strategy to short stacked strategy and vice-versa.

This argument is always trotted out often by those that prefer deep stack. You have provided no support for your argument. Conjecture and supposition is not enough.

I looked up the definition for the word skill on Google:

"the ability to do something well; expertise."

So a skillful deep stacked player and a skillful short stacked player.

Here's a comparison to show why your analogy is bad.

Don Bradman or Muhammed Ali. Michael Jordan or Usain Bolt.

Answer. They all have "the ability to do something well; expertise," in their chosen field.

They have different skills that aren't really comparable. For example, Usain Bolt doesn't need to jump 4 feet in the air to win or be able to fake. Muhammed Ali being able to run 9.6 secs for the 100 metres is not necessary.

If you were to compare Muhammed Ali to Mike Tyson or Don Bradman to Sachin Tendulkar then the analogy you make is acceptable. One can have more skill within your chosen field. Phil Galfond or Phil Ivey at Omaha at poker.

What I am trying to say is that you learn the skills necessary to win in your chosen field. These skills in poker aren't necessarily the same although there is some overlap. Just because the game is Omaha 8 doesn't mean each format requires the same skills and strategy to win.

You can't exploit fold equity by shoving all in preflop in limit 08. Maybe you should try that?

NLO8 attracts a lot of bad players, because it is a fun format that is closest to NLHE.

Good regs know how to exploit them.

I still cry inside sometimes when I have to fold good hands to a shove preflop e.g A347 ds that would be playable in PLO8 but heh different game different strategy.

if you or anyone else sees him playing, can you please let me know? There is some financial matters we need to resolve.

+1 Definitely less skill involved due to the fact there are less streets of betting, fewer decisions and potentialities to consider than in deep stacked poker.

Obviously there is always an optimal strategy to exploit any format or opponent. Some formats, turbo nlo8 for example, do not require nearly as much thought vs something like deep stacked plo8. But that is probably also part of the appeal to bad players, it neutralizes a percentage of a good player's edge, decreasing roi in the process.

I am looking for him. Looks like he was on playing his ffp's over the holidays. I think I know the account he is playing under now, but barely have any new facts so not sure if I should write poker stars with my fairly general accusation and suspicions.

You completely missed the point I made.

It was an A+ post though

what happened to duncan, did he dissapear

.^sc

Thanks Bob.

Re-reading it I was quite proud of it myself to be honest

I think my personal favourite mind was not the actual substantiated logic but this biting gem:

"You can't exploit fold equity by shoving all in preflop in limit 08. Maybe you should try that?"

I was little bit disappointed that none of it hit home!!

In all honesty though, maybe you should change your strategy Bob, you unskillful little fish :

SC. Dude is this a serious question? You are behind the times mate. Google DuncanMalloy or use the thread finder!!

He was soft colluding and I reported him. His account was being investigated so he decided to get staked at 2+2 and rip people off I think.

No I didn't. It was actually a very good post, but I could not help for restating my point about deep stack play. Obviously there is no one playing the 18 man nlo8 sit and goes who would want to play a life long pro at higher stakes deep stack plo8 action. Yet the same deep stack pros can blindly 20 table the 18 mans and beat them for 10+% with a spliff in one hand and hotkeys in the other. (checkers vs chess)

rlly?

What do u mean by soft colluding?
Whom was he colluding with?

nvm
read across the scam thread...

still, collusion would involve other ppl too und would have effected a lot more!
Did you get refunds?

so tell us who did he soft play in your opinion?
there is only a small group of 08 regs so this would be really interesting to know.....
i have been allready investigated once by stars,because some guys can`t lose.
so if u have some proof plz post it here or shut the xxxxx up!
but since nobody reported that they got a refund from stars in this forum,it seems that your suspision was xxxx anyway.

Seriously, are you drunk or something?

Malloy was clearly shady as ****. There are several people in that infamous thread that made exactly the same allegations.

Time to lay off the whiskey.

even if he is drunk, I agree with manndl...
Stars does have the best customer support and if its been reported they investigated it.
No refunds mean there wasn't proof! Even if he is shady and guilty of scamming investors he is free in that particular case...

btw best of luck to broken_jia! He is currently 2/19 (18Paid) in the weekly NLO!
Ship It!!!!

i`m super sober.
i had $$ invested in his pack when he took the $$ and ran.(streity&c.brown&peso didn`t)
but if he was soft playing would mean that there was a other player in it too and since no o8 reg got a refund i think its super unlikely.

Thanks for the rail. Failed with a bubble abuse hand and barely made the FT. Ended up 5th after a long battle. Great tournament!

Yes.

He still owes people who staked him.

Buzz

saw that shove, would have been very tempting to me too!

congrats!

yep serious question not up with the play...
very interesting...

.^sc

I fail to see the correlation between his suspected guilt and me not having invested. I don't understand the causality or logic of that statement.

Stars probably does have the best. It doesn't mean it's perfect. Just better than all of the atrocious services provided by the other sites. This maybe leads to some people having such an ethereal view of them.

It having been investigated does not in anyway mean there was no evidence/no proof. That is frankly an absurd statement. What you should have said is that there was likely insufficient evidence to come to a definitive conclusion that the behaviour was definitely not legit.

Just to illustrate the point:

"The Code for Crown Prosecutors

The Code for Crown Prosecutors is a public document, issued by the Director of Public Prosecutions that sets out the general principles Crown Prosecutors should follow when they make decisions on cases.

Is there enough evidence against the defendant?

When deciding whether there is enough evidence to charge, Crown Prosecutors must consider whether evidence can be used in court and is reliable and credible. Crown Prosecutors must be satisfied there is enough evidence to provide a "realistic prospect of conviction" against each defendant."

Third place Earth low.

So I'm about breaking even on the year a few days in. Doesn't feel that way.

Maybe because whenever I look at the $15 hypers for example I have to lol because some of the line ups going off have 0-1% ROI at best written all over them.

I think I saw a line vaguely like this the other day: yourself, janiosmo, AMDemon, Traktor, Bokkie and Angribob registered at some point the other day.

Bob cottoned on to the stupidity of it pretty sharp.

I had a look at some of your most frequent opponents at hypers this year.

Bokkie, idb99, AMDemon, Wadzon, Traktor, dega (i don't know who he is), HUNMatt.

At a game that requires table selection like no other, people seem to just disengage brain and register. You seem a bright and intelligent guy. Do you think you or anybody for that matter would be significantly +ev in some of those line ups?

some of u should absorb some this English streity drivel..seems to be good advice ....

i'm the worst at table selection ever...all I want is to be at wadzons table no matter who else is there!

back in lao/Thailand and getting poor internet sorted today(maybe) so i'm ready to lose money again soon

happy new year o8 gimps

(sigh thai whiskey stinks although cheap as fk)