many of u might not be aware of the entire multi accounting/collusion scandal going on at stoxpoker right now....stoxpokers main guy nick "stoxtrader" grudzien has admitted to multi accounting and has been accused of collusion. the backlash of this scandal is stoxpoker being shut down(from what ive read). cardrunners has said they will keep some of the coaches from stoxpoker

We need to all email cardrunners and tell them to keep predator....even if you dont subscribe to cardrunners we should still support predator who always goes out his way to help players in this forum....I say lets return the favor and help him out as he helps us out....EMAIL support@cardrunners.com and tell them to keep predator as a coach

come on guys....look out for pred

What is the problem with Pred, is he losing his job in Cardrunners or what?

Ooops sorry I knew pred is already working for Cardrunners, he is in stoxpoker. Ok now.

Thanks for your support Shaun and your positive remarks on my videos. Its a shame Stox is dissolving. I have an interview with CR upper management Monday. I'll let you know how it goes

Good luck. As a nit I cashed in some points at FTP to trial your videos for a month. My membership ended about mid this week. I am making an understatemnt to say it was definitely worth it. I had almost signed up again for several months until this happened. Let us know where you end up and you will have followers for sure

Gl Predator, i sent the email for whatever little its worth

Hope it works out for you...

ditto

good luck sir hope it works out

Pred's vids is the best big bet O8 video material that's currently available to the "general" public!!! Really hope that CR's management is smart enough to hire him!

This!

yep

Unfortunatly the most likely thing with all of these scandals is that everyone is involved to some extent. I know this will be an unpopular viewpoint but whatever it is simply true. It isn't 100% but it is the most likely thing. Wake up and stop taking up for anyone that you don't know completely. That includes only yourself in case your wondering and personally I don't trust anyone taking up for themselves.

I honestly don't think that is true.

I strongly disagree. What one individual belonging to a group does is not necessarily known by everyone in the group.

Buzz

Aren't they the only ones? Reminds me of the time my ex wife took my car to an autocross and came home with a trophy for top female, I asked how many women competed, she was like that's not important! lol

I know of at least two other sites, and other coaches, who have video material out...

best of luck pred

response letter from cardrunners


Jeff Miller, Mar 26 02:56 pm (CDT):
Hello -

I'll definitely pass this on to Alex Huang. They are currently in the process of figuring out who is going where, so your feedback will definitely be noted!

Please let us know if we can do anything else to assist you, and good luck at the tables!

Regards,
Jeff Miller
Corporate Support Manager
CardRunners/StoxPoker

Garrett Gardner, Mar 26 08:21 pm (CDT):

Hello -

Thank You for your input, I will pass this along to the appropriate parties so that your concerns are heard.

Best Regards,
Garrett Gardner
CardRunners/StoxPoker Customer Support

interesting...not identical responses

I popped one a minute ago, but i only talked about his answers here in O8 sections, as I have not seen any of his videos.

Also, as a side note, it tilts me very much, when lets say that I have not played in FTP for a while and I get a mail from them about a bonus, because they value me as a important member of their community.
If they would send me a mail like: Hey. As we see, you haven´t played here lately, so we will offer you a bonus, because we are confident that it is the best room there is.
This would be great, and I would really love the honesty.

Anyway, I hope you keep the spot, predator, as i definitively want to study some videos on O8.

Are the videos still available? I never got a chance to look.

"Interview with upper management"?

What is this, a bank??

More info to come when it is announced

Yes, looks like they will be on Stox until May 1. After that, the plan is to move the majority to Cardrunners.

With the recent "issues" that Stox went thru, there is even more of a concern for having honest, reputable coaches and doing thorough background checks and only hiring coaches that will represent Cardrunners in a positive manner.

Well, actually, when you put it that way...

GL to pred, about the most qualified 08 coach out there so if they don't take him on I don't know what they're looking for.