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06-29-2010 , 10:05 PM
I have made about five final tables in the 3.30 horse tourney (micros) each time I make a deep run I seem to manage to get bullied when it comes to the O8 round.

I have a hard time countering the aggressive players and manage to blow off my stack or get just get owned. I am constantly finding myself lost in a hand and playing way too tight. Here are some hands that maybe you guys can shed some light on. That last hand I totally butchered. Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t37354 M = 6.23
BTN: t44085 M = 7.35
SB: t101508 M = 16.92
Hero (BB): t61853 M = 10.31

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 6 K 8 J
2 folds, SB raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4 SB) 3 3 K (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: 2 BB
SB wins 2 BB


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CO: t39354 M = 6.56
BTN: t38085 M = 6.35
SB: t109508 M = 18.25
Hero (BB): t57853 M = 9.64

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 8 9 6 A
CO raises, BTN calls, 2 folds

Flop: (5.5 SB) T A 6 (2 players)
CO bets, BTN calls

Turn: (3.75 BB) 5 (2 players)
CO bets, BTN calls

River: (5.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
CO bets, BTN raises, CO raises all in, BTN calls all in

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BB: t42354 M = 7.06
CO: t41085 M = 6.85
BTN: t107508 M = 17.92
Hero (SB): t53853 M = 8.98

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with 4 9 7 3
1 fold, BTN raises, 2 folds



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SB: t38354 M = 6.39
BB: t41085 M = 6.85
CO: t113508 M = 18.92
Hero (BTN): t51853 M = 8.64

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with 8 K K J
CO raises, 3 folds

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BTN: t36354 M = 6.06
SB: t37085 M = 6.18
BB: t119508 M = 19.92
Hero (CO): t51853 M = 8.64

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with 7 6 4 4
1 fold, BTN calls, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: (2.5 SB) 5 2 2 (2 players)
BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: (1.25 BB) A (2 players)
BB bets, BTN folds

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BB: t32354 M = 5.39
CO: t62170 M = 10.36
BTN: t84423 M = 14.07
Hero (SB): t65853 M = 10.98

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with 9 T 8 Q
1 fold, BTN raises, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) A 3 4 (2 players)
BB bets, BTN calls

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q (2 players)
BB bets, BTN calls

River: (5.25 BB) J (2 players)
BB bets, BTN raises, BB calls all in

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BTN: t57354 M = 9.56
SB: t54170 M = 9.03
BB: t77423 M = 12.90
Hero (CO): t55853 M = 9.31

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with A 3 Q 9
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) 7 A T (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds

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CO: t57354 M = 9.56
BTN: t52170 M = 8.70
SB: t87423 M = 14.57
Hero (BB): t47853 M = 7.98

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 5 3 T J
2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks

Flop: (2 SB) 3 9 5 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps!, SB calls

Turn: (5 BB) 7 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

River: (7 BB) A (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds
Shorthanded trouble deep in horse tourney. Quote
06-30-2010 , 01:00 AM
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06-30-2010 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Squadooooosh
I have made about five final tables in the 3.30 horse tourney (micros) each time I make a deep run I seem to manage to get bullied when it comes to the O8 round.

I have a hard time countering the aggressive players and manage to blow off my stack or get just get owned. I am constantly finding myself lost in a hand and playing way too tight. Here are some hands that maybe you guys can shed some light on. That last hand I totally butchered. Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t37354 M = 6.23
BTN: t44085 M = 7.35
SB: t101508 M = 16.92
Hero (BB): t61853 M = 10.31

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 6 K 8 J
That's a truly terrible starting hand.
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2 folds, SB raises, Hero calls
When you call SB's raise, what flops are you planning to continue with? You have to figure that SB will probably continuation bet the flop, even without a good fit. If you can't come up with enough flops to continue, you've better off folding to the raise.

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Flop: (4 SB) 3 3 K (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds
Hero's ahead here, unless Villain has a pair of aces or a trey. You're way behind if Villain has either one. Both of these are plausibly possible, but unlikely.

I can't tell you what to do, only that calling the pre-flop raise is inconsistent with folding to the flop bet.

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Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t39354 M = 6.56
BTN: t38085 M = 6.35
SB: t109508 M = 18.25
Hero (BB): t57853 M = 9.64

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 8 9 6 A
CO raises, BTN calls, 2 folds
OK except I like calling the pre-flop raise with this hand better than the first hand. If you had to call with either one, you might have at least selected the one with an ace.

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Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
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BB: t42354 M = 7.06
CO: t41085 M = 6.85
BTN: t107508 M = 17.92
Hero (SB): t53853 M = 8.98

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with 4 9 7 3
1 fold, BTN raises, 2 folds
OK.

[quote]Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
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SB: t38354 M = 6.39
BB: t41085 M = 6.85
CO: t113508 M = 18.92
Hero (BTN): t51853 M = 8.64

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with 8 K K J
CO raises, 3 folds[quote]OK.

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Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
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BTN: t36354 M = 6.06
SB: t37085 M = 6.18
BB: t119508 M = 19.92
Hero (CO): t51853 M = 8.64

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with 7 6 4 4
1 fold, BTN calls, 1 fold, BB checks
OK.

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Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
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BB: t32354 M = 5.39
CO: t62170 M = 10.36
BTN: t84423 M = 14.07
Hero (SB): t65853 M = 10.98

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with 9 T 8 Q
1 fold, BTN raises, 1 fold, BB calls
OK.

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Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t4000/t8000 Limit - 4 players
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BTN: t57354 M = 9.56
SB: t54170 M = 9.03
BB: t77423 M = 12.90
Hero (CO): t55853 M = 9.31

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with A 3 Q 9
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls
OK.

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Flop: (4.5 SB) 7 A T (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds
Tough decision. OK.

Quote:
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CO: t57354 M = 9.56
BTN: t52170 M = 8.70
SB: t87423 M = 14.57
Hero (BB): t47853 M = 7.98

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 5 3 T J
2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks
OK.

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Flop: (2 SB) 3 9 5 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises,
Maybe OK as a change of pace, but not as a general rule. Either fold to the bet or call to see one more card. Of the two choices, I have a preference for folding. Raising seems out of the question. Bottom two pair, fives and threes, is not a good hand in Omaha-8. You probably have the best high hand at this point, but that's not likely to last.

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SB 3-bets
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, Hero caps!,
Too aggressive.

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SB calls

Turn: (5 BB) 7 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls
OK.

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River: (7 BB) A (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds
Ugly river for your hand. Even so, I think the pot is too big for you to fold to a single bet. Close decision.

Buzz
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06-30-2010 , 08:24 PM
Thanks for the insight buzz. There were other (few) hands that were played in which it was an easy fold or raise. These ones were the ones that I had trouble with the most. It seems like Im knitting it up when we get shorthanded.

Either this guy was running hot or he was just running me over since he knew I was more prone to fold. That last hand I decided to take a stand (in other words i was kinda steaming) with my weak two pair. The turn was bad but the river was just dirty. I folded cuz I didnt think I was ahead here. (as i had no low hand) I guess I could of called but thought I could play better in the stud hands.
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