Are you bet / folding or check / calling , or just bet/calling here?

I somehow feel that bet / folding against the average 2$/4$ player is the best line imo ?


Dealt to Hero 8 3 4 A

fold, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, BTN calls $4, fold, BB calls $2

FLOP ($17) A J 6

BB checks, Hero bets $2, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, BB folds

TURN ($23) A J 6 9

Hero bets $4, CO calls $4, BTN folds

RIVER ($31) A J 6 9 J

Hero bets $4, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $4

Am i good here often enough?


Dealt to Hero 8 A 4 T

UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, Hero calls $2, fold, SB calls $1, BB checks

FLOP ($10) 8 A 4

SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2, BB calls $2, UTG raises to $4, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $2, SB calls $2, BB calls $2

TURN ($26) 8 A 4 9

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4, SB calls $4, BB folds

RIVER ($38) 8 A 4 9 9

SB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero folds, SB calls $4

3way, ok for a rivercall?


Dealt to Hero K Q A 8

UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, fold, fold, SB calls $1, Hero checks

FLOP ($8) 8 K 6

SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2, UTG+1 folds, SB calls $2

TURN ($14) 8 K 6 T

SB checks, Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4, SB calls $4

RIVER ($26) 8 K 6 T Q

SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $4, SB folds, Hero calls $4

hand 1 perfect. u probly got beat.
hand 2 dont put any money in postflop
hand 3 bet river
tip 4 one hand, one thread

would you tell me why in your oppinion i shouldnt?

please clarify what you mean.

Its very opponent dependent what I would do. With no info on players

1-I play the same

2- I raise this pre as played im not looking to put any more money in.

3- I like check call here

Hmm...

Bottom line, I'd opt for check/call. But I'll run through my reasoning for you.

Very individual opponent dependent but seems rather doubtful a same opponent would raise on the river with a non-nut flush, trip jacks, or less.

Thus bet/raising is out of the question. And I don't like bet/folding for various reasons. Therefore if I bet, I'm bet/calling.

But before that Hero has to make the choice as to whether to bet or check there are some questions.

Does Villain have a full house? Villain could have JJ** (quads), AA**, AJ**, J9**, J6**, 99**, or 66**, all of which beat Hero). However, before there is any action on the fourth betting round, Villain could also have a non-nut flush, or could have been drawing for low with an ace or a jack. And he might pay off a river bet with any one of those hands.

Would Villain slow play a flopped set? (JJ**, AA**, or 99**)? In general, I wouldn't, but Villain might. And Villain might continue (chase) with AJ** or J9**. J6** or 66** seem more remote, but not impossible.

Tough decision, but before the check/raise, I'd guess Villain would either be more likely to have
• a losing hand, one he wouldn't bet, but one with which he might call on the river, or
• a losing hand, but one with which he might bluff on the river.

If it was very close in my mind between those two possibilities, or if I though Villain might bluff on the river, then I'd check/call.

I'd only bet/call if I thought Villain had a losing hand he wouldn't bet, but one with which he would call on the river.

And that depends on Villain. Without knowing Villain, I'd opt for check/call. I think that covers the bases best.

As usual when I reply to opening posts in a thread, I haven't read the other responses yet.

Buzz

What a ****ing mess!

You've got three hands in three separate posts within the same thread. That makes it very difficult down the line for anyone to follow which hand someone else is discussing.

If I had gotten to this first, I could have moved your second and third hands to their own threads, but once someone replies it's awkward for me to do that.

Please, in the future, make it one different hand history per one thread.

I'll give you short responses to your second and third hands.

I don't think so.

Once SB folds, it's two way. I'd call one last bet in a fixed limit game too. You'll probably lose to a straight, but you'll win $30 when Villain is bluffing or thin value betting and you're only risking $4. Villain only has to be bluffing or thin value betting one time in seven for the call to be profitable, overall, for Hero.

Please one hand history per thread in the future. Thanks.

Buzz

Hand 1: Played well but bet fold river - calling there is burning money
Hand 2: I open raise button/CO with this but fold after another player enters pot. As played fold river
Hand 3: Check/call flop, bet turn, bet/fold river

thanks, thanks and thanks, but why, why and why?

i like how there is no discussion about reasons behind plays you suggest.

i bet the flop, because I thought i was ahead, if there was a flushdraw i strongly consider checking instead of betting.

betting the turn is not questionable imo and i checked the river because i wanted to give people a rope to hang themselves with a busted low, bet worse or not to pay off a straight (by bet/calling)

Yes you are right. Here we go:
Yes i agree hero prolly has best high hand right now. However if low card (many of them bring st8's) peels on the turn then hero will regret having bloated the pot on the flop. Hence check call as it makes it easier to get away on turn of need be.

Turn brings safe card so bet - we agree.

River - since hero has been aggressor on the turn it seems pretty unlikley that anyone is suddenly going to take a pop at representing broadway it just doesnt make sense! Thus i think bet/fold has way more value than check call.

Bob

but if i had checked the flop and bet the turn i might have just tried to stab at the pot on the turn and then i see a c / c river more valuable, since for some reason (i might be wrong) i see people peel with low-cardish-hands than cards that make broadway here ?