I just started playing PLO8 so any advice/critique is appreciated

Villan: taggish reg

I decided to limp behind a mediocre hand. After villan raises oop i put him on a premium hand AA**s with low cards or A23Ks. From my observations regs at rush usually play passively from the blinds. Villan cb flop so I dont think he is doing that with a bare. nut low draw but rather with AA2*. Knowing that I think I should have just reraised flop. He pots turn so I am sure he is not folding his nut low. What is the best play here? Call and call river?

SB ($89.60)
BB ($68.15)
UTG ($70.60)
UTG+1 ($10.95)
CO ($45.85)
Hero ($54.35)

Dealt to Hero 5 8 A J

UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50, SB raises to $2.50, fold, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2

FLOP ($8) 8 6 8

SB bets $4.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $4.50

TURN ($17) 8 6 8 4

SB bets $15,

with reads id fold pre, raise flop and call down any non diamond

I think you'll split the pot most of the time, say 90%, scoop ~5% and get scooped ~5%.

If you call on the turn, then you should expect Villain to put you all-in on the river. Thus there is $17 in the pot, and you should expect to probably will win half of that, $8.50. You'll have to risk the amount you have left in your stack, $47.35.
($54.35-$2.50-$4.50=$47.35)

When you split, you'll win $8.50.
When you scoop, you'll win $64.35.
When you get scooped, you'll henceforth lose $47.35.

Thus if you call,
0.90*$8.50+0.05*$64.35-0.05*$47.35=+$8.50 is your e.v.

Therefore you should plan to at least call.

But you can do better than just call. Since you should feel more or less committed to the pot, you should raise, all-in. Your all in shove might just induce Villain to fold a hand that would otherwise have won half of the pot.

By all means, raise all-in!

Buzz

TURN ($17) 8 6 8 4

SB bets $15, Hero raises to $47.35 (AI), SB calls $32.35

RIVER ($111) 8 6 8 4 2

Hero shows 5 8 A J
(Pre 44%, Flop 68.0%, Turn 45.0%)

SB shows 7 2 A K
(Pre 56%, Flop 32.0%, Turn 55.0%)

Hero wins $108

I was a dog on the turn but got lucky BTW I dont think he is ever folding after potting the turn but maybe I havent played enough to be right. Thanks for the analysis guys!

wow.

+1

never mind folding, i'd be potting it preflop lol to say the least this hand would be somewhat close to the top of my button range @ 6max lol

anyway when i saw the hand history i was impressed with myself because i instantly knew exactly what the SB had. i instantly thought "hang on, if a deuce rolls off, we win all his money!" so i said to myself that if i had OP's hand i think i would raise it like he did.

but at that point i didn't consider A2+diamonds or something like A257. so i was like "oh wait if we got it in vs those hands we'd be in bad shape." then i went and started playing with ProPokerTools. then i checked OP's starting hand and realised WAIT HE HAS DIAMONDS TOO . that makes it more of a raise!!!

Here's my PPT findings, I gave Villain all clubs in spots where we need to disregard his suits:

The freeroll:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ac2d7dQc	46.25%	0	0	0	37	0
As8s5dJd	53.75%	3	40	0	3	0

BTW its same whether u give villain diamonds or not (53.75 vs 46.25)

The OK:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ac2cKcKh	48.75%	2	2	0	37	0
As8s5cJc	51.25%	3	38	0	3	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ac2c7c9c	51.25%	4	4	0	37	0
As8s5cJc	48.75%	3	36	0	3	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ac2c9cTc	50.00%	3	3	0	37	0
As8s5dJd	50.00%	3	37	0	3	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ac3c5cKc	51.88%	3	3	0	37	3
As8s5dJd	48.13%	0	37	0	0	3

(technically that last one isn't OK but in terms of equity it is)

The ugly:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ac2c8cQc	65.63%	3	6	19	37	0
As8s5dJd	34.38%	0	15	19	3	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ac2c5c7c	76.88%	20	22	2	37	3
As8s5dJd	23.13%	0	16	2	0	3

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
A244	85.00%	420,032	464,970	0	555,062	0
As8s5dJd	15.00%	0	135,030	0	44,938	0

So it looks like having the diamonds doesn't really affect things:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ad2dKcQc	55.00%	7	7	0	37	0
As8s5dJd	45.00%	3	33	0	3	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

40 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8684

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ad2dKcQc	55.00%	7	7	0	37	0
As8s5cJc	45.00%	3	33	0	3	0

IDK i was quite surprised by some of this equity stuff. maybe its not a raise?

yeah i didnt see he had spades as well so i guess i have to call but im not thrilled with my hand and im def not raising.

preflop I think you can acall or raise! Just do what you are more comfortable to do! Flop is definetly a raise flop! And I think Stacking off on the turn is pretty standart with no specific reads at least!