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10-27-2008 , 02:31 PM
I recently started playing some PLO, to diversify, and simply because the player pool seems much larger. I know some of you have dabbled in PLO as well and was wondering whether you play both games at once, and if so, whether you follow some format to keep it straight in your mind. For instance, I've tried on monitor with PLO tables and one with PL08. Previously I seperated things like this for NL08 and PL08 so it seemed natural, however the two games are different enough in starting hands that I find my reflexive identification of good starting hands is hard to do with both types of games running.

Does anyone play both at the same time, or, has anyone decided that playing both at the same time is too confusing?

I am speaking to the people who play at least 6 tables at once.
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10-27-2008 , 02:35 PM
i have done both at once recently. and on different sites at same time. it was a disaster, i think i made 1 or 2 pretty big misclicks, one pot betting nut low -no pair -in plo -- these were short handed tables tho- if u r playing full ring prolly easier.
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10-27-2008 , 02:57 PM
I have been playing both simultaneously, recently, as my desire for 4 tables of 2-4 or greater PLO8 on Stars has often not been reached. I usually only play 4-5 tables, unless I can include a couple of FR tables that play slower, but you may still find my suggestion useful.

When I first started doing this, I would always make at least a couple of mistakes a session, oftentimes not even realizing it until reviewing my hands and seeing that betting pot with nut low and middle pair is not such a good idea in PLOhi (although, frankly, a couple of streets would sometimes win me the pot). I gave up for a while on playing both at the same time until it occurred to me that if I size the windows differently, I might not make those mistakes. I now size my PLO8 tables much smaller than my PLO tables when playing both simultaneously, and have not once confused the two games since.
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10-27-2008 , 03:30 PM
I tried it once and it made my head asplode. Never again.

Edit: And this is from someone who regularly plays LO8, PLO8, NLO8, LHE, and NLHE simultaneously.

Last edited by levin_money; 10-27-2008 at 03:31 PM. Reason: In post
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10-27-2008 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by levin_money
I tried it once and it made my head asplode. Never again.

Edit: And this is from someone who regularly plays LO8, PLO8, NLO8, LHE, and NLHE simultaneously.
Thank you. I have no trouble with mixing other games, and tournaments, etc. but for some reason this combination really seems difficult to do so far. I may be better playing an hour one way, then an hour the other.
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10-27-2008 , 06:18 PM
I've tried to mix the games, PLO and PLO8. It's quite tough and it's confusing to play for obvious reasons. The bigger problem is when I add in NLHE or razz or something stupid like that (just finished playing HORSE, LO8 and NL08 at the same time. dumb!! why????????? did i do that???)

So, don't mix games ... unless we're at the same table ...then add in stud and NLHE and internet porn.
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10-27-2008 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hezster
I have been playing both simultaneously, recently, as my desire for 4 tables of 2-4 or greater PLO8 on Stars has often not been reached. I usually only play 4-5 tables, unless I can include a couple of FR tables that play slower, but you may still find my suggestion useful.

When I first started doing this, I would always make at least a couple of mistakes a session, oftentimes not even realizing it until reviewing my hands and seeing that betting pot with nut low and middle pair is not such a good idea in PLOhi (although, frankly, a couple of streets would sometimes win me the pot). I gave up for a while on playing both at the same time until it occurred to me that if I size the windows differently, I might not make those mistakes. I now size my PLO8 tables much smaller than my PLO tables when playing both simultaneously, and have not once confused the two games since.

Solid! gonna try tonight.
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10-27-2008 , 10:28 PM
I don't do this often, but when I did I'd seperate tables on 2nd monitor. Top and bottom or left and right would work ok if you were only playing a few tables on 1 monitor too.
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10-27-2008 , 10:43 PM
1) different games on different sites is super easy (but obvious and perhaps not ideal)

2) different monitors for different games helps

3) different size tables is the best.

4) i prefer to keep my body oriented towards the plo tables since they tend to require more attention (imo).
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10-27-2008 , 11:08 PM
As silly as this sounds, I put high only tables on the left and hi lo on the right of the screen, and it has been a long time since I made a wrong game miss-click. I play up to 10-12 Omaha tables when possible (generally full ring though)

When I am playing multiple rooms the different timing and pop up issues can be frustrating, and sometimes I will group them by site with the high tables being above the hi lo, usually with a Stars tournament between them in case I forget where the border between games.


I find multiple rooms to be more difficult to manage then a mix of Omaha games. 12 Crypto tables (long time since that happened) are easier then 4 crypto 4 ipoker and 2 stars because of the consistent timing.

As an aside, when I added a HORSE tourney to the mix I did win a stud hand playing what I thought was razz. Only after the others at the table called me a moron did I realize it, but up cards of 268 rainbow are good against KK4 normally... (got 6th and 7th street to finish flush).
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10-27-2008 , 11:28 PM
I do my Omaha Hi on upper right, usually only 1 PLO, possibly 2 or 3 PLO8s. Multitabling and multigaming are both subject to occasional errors- recent forays into 8-game have produced two PLO hands played as LO8 for -EV. Generally though timeouts are a bigger problem than wrong-game mistakes.
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10-28-2008 , 07:27 PM
Guys, who of you multitables 16 plo8 + 8 plo tables (yes, 24 tables total which is max possible) at Stars?
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10-29-2008 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fleet Feat
I've tried to mix the games, PLO and PLO8. It's quite tough and it's confusing to play for obvious reasons. The bigger problem is when I add in NLHE or razz or something stupid like that (just finished playing HORSE, LO8 and NL08 at the same time. dumb!! why????????? did i do that???)

So, don't mix games ... unless we're at the same table ...then add in stud and NLHE and internet porn.
There was one day a year or two ago I was playing LO8, PLO, Stud8, Stud and a NLHE MTT at the same time.

I'm pretty sure I've never recovered mentally.
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10-29-2008 , 12:05 PM
It's generally a bad idea imho as getting your flow/intuition correct is key.

-g
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10-29-2008 , 03:28 PM
sometimes ill run 6-8 plo high (all 6max) on left monitor and 4-6 NLhi.lo (6max FR depending on whats going at 1-2) on right monitor. i used to always spazz even when the monitor separted them cus you are constantly getting hands on both at the same time.

to combat this intense urge to gamble, i changed the background color on stars so they are complete opposites: steel vs. blue or something. I've also added avatars one time but the pictures just make me angry so thats a bad plan.

in general i think its a bit overkill but its exciting and fun...

other times ill just jump on 12 tables of high 6max and get tons of hands/hr and rakeback
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10-30-2008 , 03:44 PM
dont do it, you can have different sessions with one or the other but mixing is a terrible idea. they are two completely different games with completely different approaches and adjustments.
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10-30-2008 , 06:31 PM
It would take someone with better mental discipline than me to multitable 2 games that are that similar. I prefer the multi-site approach, or mix in SNGs. This is easy for me though since the amounts on the $ tables never approach the $T amounts, high rollers mileage may vary.
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10-31-2008 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gergery
It's generally a bad idea imho as getting your flow/intuition correct is key.

-g
This.

I get bored and usually 4- to 6-table, but I sprinkle in HORSE and 8-game with O8, not PLO. It's even harder to eye the board games, but my monitor is big enough that I see everything.

I'm just in the habit of always looking at what the game is before acting. If you can't do that, and can't keep track of the mucked cards, then you're playing too many games. 4-tabling is about right to keep at an equilibrium where I'm comfortable, if that makes sense.

Just do what's most +EV. You probably already know.
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11-05-2008 , 01:06 AM
any mixing of these 2 games used to melt my brain. recently I started enjoying one of each, and my comfort limit is 3 total maybe 4. I organize them left and right, play a bit slowly, and try to always check the game before I act if I'm not already completely on it.

mixing 2 games may diminish your acuity--but probably less than reading the news, listening to online radio, playing a movie and running a sports match on the screen all at the same time while multitabling 6 games--which is a place I can easily find myself.
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