i could use help/advice/instruction/input on each street/decision thanks

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 8 players
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UTG: $26.25
UTG+1: $25.00
MP1: $43.51
MP2: $22.40
CO: $51.88
BTN: $25.20
Hero (SB): $19.16
BB: $27.68

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K A K A
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.55) 9 T 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50

Turn: ($11.05) K (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $11.05, CO requests TIME, CO folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero?

disregard that I'm shortstacked, i manually reload and at times like this one wait until the button(i lost a hand 3 hands ago)
don't have much in the way of reads they are basically unknowns and my database is too small to be significant, but i have both villians with high vpips,
there's more gamble at this table then is typical of FR plo8 $25, more preflop raising, bigger pots.

preflop: should this be a 3bet?
flop: is a c/r better even if it results in no one betting and a free turn card (seemed possible because the flop doesn't really look like it connects with strong hands)
turn: is the check awful? leading out commits me. is this a good or bad card?
it gives me more outs, i have i believe 18 very strong outs, and top set, but having checked and MP1 betting pot..which logically is qj** , should i suspect his range to be larger?how can the king help him unless it completes his str8 or its a bluff? can I call/stackoff? ( i guess potodds/equity wise its very close risking $15 to win $25 balances @ 37.5% equity which is my hand vs QJXY w/ 2 diamonds. )UGH

Pre-flop - definate 3 bet. Get as much money in pre-flop as you can imo.
Flop - Not so sure myself tbh, but leading out doesn't seem too terrible. Better off asking Buzz and co.
Turn - I think you have the odds to get it in here, even against the made straight, as you have outs to the flush and the FH.

I HATE this hand in SB... I'm looking forward to what others have to say about this

You want to get face up with this hand, even if you tell your opponent what you have. Therefore, you want to re-raise out of the SB to try to knock out MP1. By 3-betting, you are more likely to knock out the middle hands that OP would be worried about on this flop.

On the two high flop with the nut flush draw and the two overpairs, I'm putting maximum pressure on my opponent(s) and potting it. In any event, because OP is short, the hand plays itself. If the 9 were an 8 (two low cards), I would play this much more conservatively because of the high split potential.

If OP were deeper, I might play it differently but with only 78BB to start the hand, I am looking to get it in on the flop.

OK.

OK.

This is kind of an awkward spot for Hero, because an opponent could have a king high straight. But that's actually unlikely. The probability one of two opponents would have been dealt a hand with at least one queen plus at least one jack is about 12%. And the probability someone would continue with a hand containing a queen plus a jack is even less. (Queens and jacks are not shunned, but they're not favored either). Depending on the two particular opponents involved, it's at least seven to one, (and probably even less likely) that one of these two opponents actually has a queen plus a jack.

So Hero should bet this turn, $11, more or less representing a hand containing a queen plus a jack. And then the two opponents, if they have any sense, would have to consider the possibility Hero has flopped the king high straight.

Obviously Hero does not want to get raised, and if that happens then Hero will have to "play poker" (meaning Hero has to decide whether the raiser has the straight or is semi-bluffing). Nobody can tell Hero what that decision should be. It's entirely opponent dependent.

The key is trying to stay out of spots like this. If Hero directly bets the flop, then MP1 has to make this error prone decision, not Hero.

Nobody can know what to do here.

Not in my opinion.

Not in my opinion.

Yes.

It's a good card. (I presume you mean the K on the turn.

I don't know. Probably.

It may be either of those. More likely it's a semi-bluff (meaning Villain still probably needs a card to complete his hand to make a straight or better.

"Can" is probably the wrong verb to use. You "can," but I don't know if you should or not.

In my humble opinion, you erred by not directly betting the turn. In my humble opinion, you erred by checking the turn in the first place. In my humble opinion you're worried about the wrong thing. (You should have bet the eleven bucks yourself and then worried if Villain raised).

Buzz

I agree with Buzz that the turn bet would be a much better choice than checking. But, if you've seen the CO c-bet much, I do like a c/r on the flop as I'd be happy to get it over with right there, or at least get it heads-up.

I wouldnt 3bet this from sb, I dont like to play big pots out of position until I am sure I have the goods. I would bet pot on the turn, and then you are NOT worried about a raise(imo) because you will only have $4.51 left and the pot will be $30+.
As played you have 10 outs to big full house/quads and 9 outs to nut flush, so even if we know he has the straight, you are still about 38% to win. If he doesnt have the straight, you are way ahead. This is a fair spot for him to bluff the scare card, as you bet the flop and checked the turn, and CO hasnt shown any real strength pf or on the flop. I would probably shove the turn. Like Buzz said your turn check made it a lot harder for you, pot the turn and let him wonder.

That turn is an icky spot. Bet flop is ok...but I hate the check on the turn. If you check here you have a limited idea about what the guy is firing that bet into you with.

His call on the flop to me suggests the naked Qj as a reasonable possiblity or a weak flush draw.At this level I don't think he checks that flop with qj** with two diamonds in his hand. Does he check that flop with a set then fire the turn (very unlikely)? Does he fire with a poor flush draw because you have shown weakness on a semi bluff (quite possibly)? Does he have the nut straight which he would call the flop with then fire turn (quite possible). Or alternatively total air because he is a slight maniac! Reads would help definitely.

HOWEVER WE DON'T KNOW the biggest problem is we are guessing because we haven't asked any questions about his hand on the turn by betting.

I therefore, agree with the sentiments that we have to fire but stack size is important. I don't really play cash anymore (Sngs) but I would be interested to know what people think in regards to the size of the bet we would lead for here. A full pot commits us if he raises? 5-7 would be my guess. If he raises here can we then fold with this type of lead? I am not (thats prob why I play less cash!!).Can we get away with betting slightly less also on the flop maybe?

Biggest problem in this hand is more playing OOP. If we are building a pot OOP with this kind of hand what turn cards are we hoping that would allow us to fire on the turn with more confidence apart from a flush card?

Interestingly as another thought the preflop aggressor also calls time on the turn suggesting he maybe on some sort of weak flush draw/straight draw.

I hope some of these thoughts help...maybe more questions than answers!!

Posting mostly blind here.

Pre-flop - both trains of thought are valid. First, not 3-betting because you will be OOP with a hand that is either hit or miss has merits. 3-betting here and trying to play HU makes sense as well since your hand does much better HU - HI only hands always do much better HU. Which play you make really is style dependent and if you have reads on your opponents, that should come into your decision as well. Just smooth calling is definitely going to be lower variance.

Flop - I like your donk if you are uncertain about villain's tendencies. If you feel certain villain will bet when checked to, a C/R is a superior play IMO.

Turn - don't puss out here - bet the pot repping the nuts and if you get raised you will have the odds to call - thats poker. Checking here is just weaksauce and weaksauce is recipe for losing poker.

River - if you were behind on the turn to the nuts, just make sure to suckout!

If you had a full stack then it's a definite call preflop. You are a dog to any hand that will call a 3-bet and you would be heads-up out of position with significant money behind, a terrible situation.

However due to your short stack you can probably get away with 3-betting and then jamming any flop, as people may fold hands that still have significant equity. (I would still just call, however).

Flop is fine, on the turn, certainly you're at least calling. You have little enough behind that I'd stick it in on the off-chance that the guy doesnt actually have the straight.

I like a check on the turn with the intention of shoving. You get him to bluff at pots where if you c-bet turn he might fold out. If he checks behind on turn you know you are ahead and obviously aren't worried about the dd or board pairing. If he bets turn with QJ so be it you have outs and ride the variance train.....

I should say it's read dependent as well. People who like to float a lot in position are good candidates to check turn so they can now try and steal.

PF: I probably repop it since you are double suited but whatever calling is fine too.
Flop: Leading is good that one of the better flops for your hand.
Turn: The only reason to check this turn is to induce a bluff you certainly arent folding to any amount of action. I would just shove the last $4 in after checking but I probably would have just lead myself again and if raised big deal the pot odds are by far in your favor.

3bet pot pre is ok, because you are shortstacked. Then ship it in pot except on extrem scary boards, that could helped the raising range of villian.
Would not do that with a full stack.

As played: Pot flop is the only way: there is no low draw, you have the nut flush draw, overpair and gutshut. You are playing that hand for such a flop. Do not bet less then pot: Maximize fold equity and do not give drawing odds.

Turn:
bet pot! check is a big mistake. he may draw to something and he has to pay for it. also there is no way to fold to a villians bet and when you know that take the initiative by yourself
as played reraise allin in ist the only way: When you are behind you have a lot outs. Only calling is a mistake. You are commited in that case.

thanks....i appreciate all the responses.

2 things,
firstly, i'm alittle surprised the majority would bet turn directly rather than what lukaluka suggested
this was what i was thinking until the pot-sized bet 'threw me for a loop'..i really didn't think the board likely fit someone's hand, i was rather surprised to begin with at the 2 calls on the flop. i didn't think a free card could be that bad because what could he really be drawing to?(smaller sets=just 3 outs or gutshot=3 outs)
secondly, that the lead bet on the flop should be 'pot-sized' rather than smaller(my 70%-pot) for pressure or FE. it seems to me it makes sense sometimes to flop bet more if its necessary in order to build a bigger pot, which is necessary if you are deeper and need the pot to be bigger to get one's entire stack in eventually. it doesn't seem to me that 100%-pot or 70%-pot indicates whether i hit the flop harder or softer or that one is stronger/weaker than the other. However, i can't help noticing my reaction to the turn bet...being a pot-bet, because i think i would have not been as flustered by a smaller bet of $7-or $8, and yet even though villian was basically unknown, i think i recognized that when he bet he bet pot, so the size doesn't really represent much (atleast thats how i remember him betting in retrospect.) and yet the size of the bet had impact. It's certainly something I have to consider. thanks again all.

If you read Villain correctly, that he'll bluff here, and then if you're sure he's bluffing when he does bet, then that suggested line is fine.

Before he bets, it's seven to one or greater that he doesn't have the possible straight. But after he bets, that's no longer true because he's probably always going to bet the turned straight but he's not always going to bet a straight draw or various worse hands.

He's more likely to have KQYZ, QTYZ, Q9YZ, KJYZ, JTYZ, or J9YZ (all straight draws) than QJYZ (the turned straight). By checking, Hero allows the possibility of a free draw for Villain. (In addition, by checking, Hero, unless he's peeked at Villain's cards, puts himself in the possible pressure spot rather than applying the pressure to Villain).

That didn't come from me. I like your flop bet.

Buzz

I haven't read the previous comments, just the original HH. I'm going to say I dig you play and I would probably play it damn near the same. I'm not 3betting this preflop from the SB in a PLO8 game b/c I don't see myself getting more than 80% of my stack in here. If its NLO8 maybe I 3bet ship all in since you're shortstacked (i know you said to ignore that but its part of this table's dynamic). Back to how you played, I like the flop lead, but I'm making a pot sized bet here all day. Turn = C/R all in for me. I'll gamble here knowing I'm drawing to 2 nuts and I don't hold any of my own blockers. If he has qj and holds gg him. I play it this way b/c if I had aqjxdd I would make the same move on the flop and on the turn.

Pre-flop: I would almost certainly 3 bet despite being in SB. This gives you more chance of getting this pot HU, which is probably a good idea. Moreover, AAKKs is a strong starting hand, despite the absence of a lo draw.

Flop: Having 3 bet pf, this is an easy c/b. There is only one lo card on the board, you have the nut flush draw and two overpairs.

Turn: Fire again. You've now made top set and approximately 4/10 will make either the nut flush or FH on river. If an opponent has spiked the straight then too bad...I'm getting the money in here every time.

In summary, I like playing this hand aggressively. I think it's a very good flop for your hand with only one lo card on board. Why show weakness at any stage with this hand...maintain the aggression and force your opponent/s into making tough decisions rather than the other way around.

pot/call turn