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01-22-2010 , 05:58 PM

InvisibleBridge

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hello all,
I plan on depositing 1K on FT in the near future.
My question is, for an aggressive 6max player
such as myself, will this be enough of a roll for 4-tabling $.25/$.50, 6max PLO8???
I realize this is only 20BI, but wouldn't I be following the 20% of roll at risk at any one time rule??? Or should I just pad it for more of a safety net?

Also, I would like to hear from anyone who plays the FR tables at these stakes as far as how soft the games are. I understand I will have to adjust my style for FR.
I'd appreciate any input, thanks.

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01-22-2010 , 06:00 PM

ichbin

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These kind of questions almost always depend on other factors, like how badly you need to avoid the risk of going broke.

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01-22-2010 , 06:01 PM

Shaqalicious

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20 buyins is plenty for that level

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01-22-2010 , 06:45 PM

InvisibleBridge

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Originally Posted by ichbin

These kind of questions almost always depend on other factors, like how badly you need to avoid the risk of going broke.

I can see how this is a type of reply I would receive in this thread, but perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I was hoping for answers geared toward the style of the players at that level.
Is the game easily overrun 6-max? Would it be more profitable to nit it up in FR?
And will my BR be enough to play as aggressively as I would like to at 6-max.

For the record, I don't think anyone wants to go broke for any size deposit, but for the sake of arguing, let's just say I can afford to lose a few buyins to some donks and not kill myself... =)

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01-22-2010 , 06:46 PM

wackjob

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Originally Posted by InvisibleBridge

We don't want any more decent players at FTP! $1000 for PL50? Easy.

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01-22-2010 , 07:49 PM

suiteddeuces

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I agree, go play on AP or cake

It really depends on what games are running. I prefer 6max myself, but sometimes the games just aren't running. I think the answer is obvious, try them both, and see which one works best for you.

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01-22-2010 , 08:35 PM

InvisibleBridge

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Great, thanks for the boost of confidence. Also would it be considered too risky to use the same roll for SnG's/ tourneys, assuming I wouldnt take shots at anything higher than the $6.50 6-maxes, and/or up to the $24+2 tourneys until a score?
Thanks in advance.

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01-22-2010 , 09:12 PM

Truthiness24

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For me the number is more like $200 -- or the extent of the bonus/reload offer -- build it up to 10-20 BI at the next level and move up, or lather/rinse/repeat.

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03-04-2010 , 04:46 PM

AKQJ10

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Originally Posted by ichbin

These kind of questions almost always depend on other factors, like how badly you need to avoid the risk of going broke.

And winrate. IMO any discussion of bankroll without reference to winrate (at least an assumed one) is not a competent discussion of bankroll.

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03-04-2010 , 04:51 PM

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ichbin

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Lol true. Never heard anyone ask 'so if I'm a pretty consistent 4BB/100 loser, how much do I have to deposit to not be broke before the end of the month?'

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03-04-2010 , 11:38 PM

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chknpotpie

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Originally Posted by InvisibleBridge

not at 6 max 4 tabling if you're an aggressive player if you really don't want to go broke. You could easily lose 8 buy ins quick, and there goes 40% of your roll. I would say that is barely enough for .1/.25, if even.

I'd start with 1500 (extra 500 just in case) at .1/.25 and work it to 2500-3k, move to .25/.50, if you drop below 2k, go back to .1/.25. Work it to 5k-6k, move to .5/1 and so on.

You could easily be more aggressive, but by your approach 1k at .25/.50, if you lose 300, you're basically forced to move down, and you now have to make twice as many buy ins back.

But i'm a br nit, who hasn't gone broke in 4 years.

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03-04-2010 , 11:40 PM

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chknpotpie

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Originally Posted by InvisibleBridge

For the record, I don't think anyone wants to go broke for any size deposit, but for the sake of arguing, let's just say I can afford to lose a few buyins to some donks and not kill myself... =)

But if this is true, and you can afford to redeposit 2-3 times, i'd just start with .25/.50. The reward, of building a decent bankroll in a small amount of time instead of taking twice as long, is probably worth the risk of going busto.

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03-06-2010 , 08:04 PM

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DJilago

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I would start at 100PLO8 with a 1000$ BR. People spew and burn money at both 50PLO8 and 100PLO8 so I'd just start at 100PLO8

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03-07-2010 , 01:29 PM

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campfirewest

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That bankroll is fine for 50PLO8. I would hold off on 100PLO8 until you see that you are winning. But if you lose 6-7 buy ins I would stop and move down and do some more studying.

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03-07-2010 , 02:57 PM

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marek_heinz

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Its pretty lol that this kind of thread is made every month and everytime there are 90% bad answers.

BR necessary is a function of your edge, your standard deviation and the risk of ruin you are willing to take. 10bi might be enough in some cases and 50bi might not be enough in other. If you beat the games for at least 3bb/100, are playing a lower variance style and can reload, then 20bi is probably plenty

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