Well after 3 months of breakeven O8 I've decided to take a hard look at my own game. Apparently I'm a decent winner in PL, a decent loser in NL, and I absolutely get destroyed in non-showdown pots. I get completely run over despite the fact that I feel I take an aggressive approach to the game. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.

I had a long essay typed out but f it. Here's my stats. I suck, shred me.

i'd stop playing nl. Maybe you're too agressive, frankly I don't think many people can play this game well raising 9% of their hands with almost a 3 agression factor, at least I find it pretty easy to play against them.. if they didn't raise they never have A2, usually not A3, almost never AA, but they like trying to represent even when a thinking player knows they aren't going to have the hand. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this but it's just my opinion.

This is my month, you can kinda disregard the 1/2 stats since i'm not rolled for it on that site and was nitting it up.

i have the same exact problem cwagon, my solution was to stop playing NL lol. pretty simple & effective

wow 43$ profit over 10k hands at PL50, id kill myself from boredom. looks like you ran hot at 100 though nice stats

i have seen some odf the dumbest pushes ever in NL , but being i run bad in november, im losing.

1) seems like you're fpsing at the 200s... why is your aggression higher (by a lot)?

2) you're playing nl100 with almost identical stats as pl100. the games play very differently. in nl, it sucks to build a big pot and then get blown off of your hand (that certainly has some equity) when someone pushes. in pl, most raises can be called simply due to ev. figure out what adjustments need to be made.

3) it seems like you'd be an easy player to trap and/or bully.

4) look at your largest 10 lost pots at each level. what were your reads, what was your line, and what was your equity? are you getting your money in good?

just some thoughts...

I wouldn't even classify NL Omaha 8 as poker.

Yeah right

try to explain PL to friends who think Q9s is the nuts in Holdem because THEY NEVER LOSE WITH IT!

NL O8 is great for live poker with friends

im just glad other people have the same thoughts as me on the NL vs PL. I thought i was the only one losing/starting to hate NL compared to PL

Trust me I would love to quit playing NL, but when there's 1 table of PL100 and 8 tables of NL100 running, unfortunately you have to go where the action is. And of course the natural followup to that statement is, "well if you're losing at it why play it?". My answer to that is I see a game I can't beat as a weakness and something that I need to fix.

After looking over my stats and comparing to a few of the decent winners in my DB I do think I'm being too aggressive, especially on the flop. Building a big pot when it's usually still pretty much a coinflip in equity then facing a shove when you don't improve much is not a fun place to be. Normally when I hit I stack someone but when I'm bleeding 8-10bbs per hand that I don't connect decently with (and 100bbs when my hero calls go pearshaped) it's a losing proposition.

Kuso -
1) Higher AF at 200s is a result of taking a shot outside of my normal limits. I'm naturally aggressive as hell (if you want to see fps/******ed aggro monkey I'll post my NLHE stats) and I think I need to tone it back to what the game dictates.

2) Noted, I have a few ideas I'll be working with.

3) Easy to trap / bully since my default line is bet and my range isn't nearly LAG enough for my AF? Makes sense if that's what you meant, that's kinda the conclusion I've arrived at looking over my stuff.

4) Biggest pots lost were set over sets, underboats, suckouts, combo airballs, and of course a handful of idiot semibluffs/calls on my part. Looking back I would have played about half of them the same way. PokerEV always has good things to say about my equity, I just get crushed in the non-SDs.

Thanks for the replies everyone.