Keerching. You got it. See above posts.

If you can't be bothered here you go:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/prom...ration/golden/

Anything like this is at least 5-6 years away and even then, merging of player pools isn't guaranteed. Better off to focus on the short-term, if you want 9-mans then be the first to sit them and have patience. With a few other regulars, you can get them running. I've been doing it where I'm at lately for 9-man turbos and traffic has been picking up, they even added higher buy-ins for us a month or so ago($22, 33, 60, 109, and 215). Haven't gotten the 109 or 215s to fill yet though

If you sit it, they will come

biood I'm flattered, you left the table when I registered.

i saw you registering and was seriously afraid of playing 3,5$ with you.

I continued so I wouldn't look like a stalker.

Have noticed some of the regs use styles of play that probably is good against so called fish, not very so against others. Stealing is the word coming to mind.

boring thread again.

Here's a thought for you: How about thinking of what you could do to make the thread interesting... something that wouldn't get you banned... and then do it. Make the thread interesting for us. Be creative. Be amusing.

Buzz

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A: Because they don't have balls to scratch.

Now thread isn't boring anymore.

lets do a game here... someone asks a question to someone else, no matter what it is and the other one obv has to give honest answer. doesnt have to be poker related.

everybody who is in should post " in for the game ". once ur in, you can ask and be asked by others one who are in.

IN FOR THE GAME

lol didn't expect that one from buzz of all people

nobody wants to play everybody afraid of hilarious questions ^^

Interesting idea.

However, in order to play honestly one would have to be willing to disclose passwords, pin numbers, social security number, location of assets, etc. - information nobody should want to disclose to strangers.

And that makes the game impossible for me.

But even with financial information and screen names excluded, the questions could be too personal... how long is your dong... how many sexual partners have you had... improper questions for this forum, even for this loosely moderated thread.

My guess is the game will be a game of solitaire for you. Are you planning to ask yourself any questions?

Buzz

obv no one would have to give away passwords ... god... the rest would be ok... I have no problem answering those questions to people I will never meet in real life, even in real life wouldnt be a problem for me. I think ur toooooooo old to understand that buzz.

@biood: Why are you such a great person ?

sry biood, no clue. I think I was just born pretty damn cool and then worked on becoming great.

have you ever sat with ur laptop on ur knee grinding whist having a poo?

To tell you the truth, there's a lot I don't understand and probably never will. But I don't think it has much to do with being too old.

Buzz

you can obv only do questions if u are in the game aswell...

Sup dudes, just wanted a quick check on this spot. I have a difficult time recognizing where/when to make icm adjustments. In this hand I ended up shoving, but after doing a rough calculation it seems like the play is too risky. Would you guys be folding here? If so, what would be a threshold shoving hand?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $14.41 Buy-in (40/80 blinds, 8 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): 1,013 (12.7 bb)
BB: 1,721 (21.5 bb)
BTN: 266 (3.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J A 6 T
BTN folds

Hero should fold.

In this situation, considering the stack sizes, my main objective would be to eliminate BTN from the tournament. I would not want to risk tournament death here by going all-in against the big stack.

And that will be the situation if BB calls.

Meanwhile, BB (who would like to see Hero knocked out), if holding a decent hand, will be very tempted to call.

And BTN should be absolutely delighted at your shove! (If BB calls and scoops Hero, then BTN moves into second place). Sometimes the worst move is the move an opponent would be delighted to see.

In Hero's shoes I'd much rather wait to make a move until the very next hand, when BTN will be posting the big blind. And then if either Hero or BB raises BTN's blind, BTN will be on the spot.

I think this is a fold for Hero, even though he's probably ahead of BB. I wouldn't want to risk getting knocked out when BTN is this close to saying sayonara.

Buzz

Thanks Buzz, yeah I suspected it was an easy fold after thinking about it. How about the follow up question regarding the minimum hand to shove? The hand in question was ranked in top 22%... would you say top 15% is conservative enough? top 10? I'm vaguely aware of icm bubble situations but I'm unsure how extreme my adjustments should be compared to chip EV.

[ ] very professionel analysis of buzz

I think it's a shove, but it's close. Third stack still is a bit too big for hero starting to play scared every hand.

Yeah bio, I've lurked long enough that its no surprise buzz advocated the nitty line, but I thought he had the right answer anyway... perhaps not because at least one person disagrees.

Angri, yeah I know I didnt give info about villain which obv could affect the answer for this particular spot. But I dont really care about this spot, rather as you said "what should our shove/call ranges be", which shouldn't depend on reads or any extra info.

I'm going to attempt a more rigorous calculation, but my previous attempts have left me less than confident about the results. To me, the math itself is fairly easy, but realistic assumptions are tougher. First I'll just calculate how much he needs to fold to make shoving this hand +EV$. I'll take my icm equity for all possible outcomes: he folds, he calls/I scoop, he calls/chop, he calls and scoops. Then do a weighted average and compare to my icm equity of folding. Is ignoring 1/4s for simplification ok? Does the icm calculator in HEM apply to split pot games? Does this method sound reasonable? Is there a simpler way to do it?

I'm still at a loss about how to figure out what call/shove ranges should be, but at least that should get me closer.

All I really want is something practical to take away like "when you are shoving into the big stack after a short stack folded, you need to be much tighter/a little tighter etc"

icm wise its a fold but it all depends on how tight the big stack is, if u have info that would suggest he is tight then i belive it to be a shove. either one isnt a bad play tho its 50/50