Yeah good luck plaaynde! There are some very good players who play $3.50 - some of the best in the game play this level. I guess the trick is to figure out who they are and adjust accordingly - pretty much everyone else is awful. Hope it goes well!

Bob

Shocking. Good there are ev and chips graphs nowadays, guess your other graphs are going well. I will probably continue only single tabling, at least until I've learned the game properly, and don't have the resourses to put in that many hours (I'm still a bronze star, been chrome at times ). I started out in August last year, have produced only 1.6k games, let's say I've played 200 games a month. If I ran like you, and had the same ev, my even money streak would last for three years!

The variance is obviously even a bit worse than I expected. Will play for the ev, chips and bb graphs, real money is a nice bonus, if it comes. Not really a very big deal for me, beating the game "in reality" is the most important. Good to know also that if I start to "play like a demigod", I will most probably only run good

Anyway Angribob, my hope is you have cherry picked for running bad, so those streaks don't hit with that high probability...

I had a similar graph for 150,000 hands - 2 differences though - 1. I didn't have any of that lovely bit at the start where winnings = expectations. 2. I still made about $10K.

Unfortunately if ur gonna play on-line, this seems to be the norm for good players. Just tragic EV graphs. Wish I lived in Vegas or London where I could find 101 live games running and stop the on-line biz but that ain't the case

Encouraging. Just looked at how many hands I play on average in each game, and it's almost exactly 20. So I could run bad for five years. And guess we haven't even started to talk about those REAL rock bottom possibilities yet.

Just for giving you folks some hope:



Up 20bi in some equally many games.

Worst thing with these streaks is you know they can't continue forever



At least I will have some money to pay with when the downswing hits...

Poker Stars $6.71+$0.29 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds + t2 - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: t500 M = 11.90
Hero (SB): t500 M = 11.90
BB: t500 M = 11.90
UTG: t500 M = 11.90
MP: t500 M = 11.90
CO: t500 M = 11.90
Pre Flop: (t42) Hero is SB with J K T 9
1 fold, MP calls t20, CO says "streity....$7 careful man!", 1 fold, Hero says "hi", 2 folds, BB checks

Thanks for the warning streity! Apparently chat is registered only when the tournament has started. Decided to take my rungood money from the $3.50s and take a shot one level up. Looks players are considerably skillier. Kind of like it, if I only won. First impression in statistics:

Im never folding that in the sb in a limped pot. Regs dont get better as you move up, you just have more of them in each game.

You don't?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation[/URL]

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Jh Kh Td 9d	40.89%	172,267	314,283	4,597	0	0
a	59.11%	281,120	281,120	4,597	304,886	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation[/URL]

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Jh Kh Td 9d	46.93%	205,938	346,001	12,300	0	0
*	53.07%	241,699	241,699	12,300	268,986	0

You think the flop hits often enough?

Nah.. The faster you will move up, the more swingy game regs will give you. There is somekind defition for it but I don't remember though.. It was breeze welcome or sth like that :P

You get 6:1 to call and you're investing only 2% of your stack so it's an easy call to a limp.

Thanks, something to think about in the early rounds. Guess you have to play poker then. Have been concentrating on the all-in dynamics. Hating invest-fold.

Bye bye $7.00 hypers

Hello! I have a question. As far as this is true for hi lo?
http://gyazo.com/6dfb885f9709eb14faf9f71c955243d6

Then look http://www.propokertools.com/orderings/o8ordering.txt
Hand A2KQ rainbow is not included 5%, and this fold by ICM?
I watched as Bob plays, and push A3Q8 in this situation, a standard...i dont no its + or - on big distance?
Sorry for bad english.

^^ the 1st link I don't know what it means.

IF you are asking if you should play A 2 Q K rainbow and A 3 8 Q in hyper-turbo 6-max, yes to both. In hyper-turbo even 10% hands can play. Obviously at times it does depend on your stack and position - sometimes you should fold both hands but most of the time you should shove/call - shove > call.

Personally I think ICM is close to BS in hyper O8. That's because you don't bust that easy when the pot is split, and because each tournament is that short, not like a bubble at the WSOP. Blinds keep going up with hyper speed, you can't sit there throwing away good equity hands.

Thanks for answers ^^

1st link is ICM calculator. In hold'em, we must push 5% of hands in this situation. Can it be applied to Hi lo or should we push more hands because the bank can be divided? How it is possible to count?

A holdem ICM calculator is beyond useless for o8. You realise that screen shot is just some random numbers somebody has put into a calculator (which is what it is). Not some GTO mathematical truth.

Ok...Independent Chip Model. Calculator considers the + or - EV push we do. But the model Independent and shows the percentage according to the size of our and others stacks or not?

All right. I understand why it does not work. Thank you and sorry for the stupid questions. ^^

Just opted in on SharkScope. Interesting reading. You of course also look at your own stats. I seem to have played very little tournaments before finding the hypers. Average ROI of 1.8%, guess it could be worse, but miles away from satisfactory.

hey, anyone notice bookie87 winning 100k this week? pretty sick concidering, but is probs the best player at 6 max atm

I actually just dropped by to say congratulations to bokkie if he's around here somewhere. What a week that is. Over $100,000. I'd imagine he's probably in Hawaii by now drinking rum out of a coconut shell.

No, he's the LUCKIEST player at 6-max atm. He's just on an insane heater like all those before him.

He could be both.