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05-03-2014 , 04:01 PM
From scratch to riches:

Poker Stars $1.40+$0.10 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds + t3 - 6 players
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SB: t420 M = 6.67
BB: t125 M = 1.98
UTG: t459 M = 7.29
MP: t650 M = 10.32
CO: t1057 M = 16.78
Hero (BTN): t289 M = 4.59

Pre Flop: (t63) Hero is BTN with 3 4 4 A
UTG calls t30, MP raises to t90, CO calls t90, Hero raises to t286 all in, 1 fold, BB calls t92 all in, UTG calls t256, MP calls t196, CO calls t196

Flop: (t1299) 2 4 T (5 players - 2 are all in)
UTG checks, MP bets t90, CO calls t90, UTG calls t90
Turn: (t1569) 4 (5 players - 2 are all in)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks
River: (t1569) Q (5 players - 2 are all in)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets t120, UTG folds, MP folds
Final Pot: t1569
BB shows 6 7 3 9 (HI: a pair of Fours)
CO shows Q A 7 5 (HI: two pair, Queens and Fours)
Hero shows 3 4 4 A (HI: four of a kind, Fours)
CO wins t270

Hero wins t656
Hero wins t643

Can't remember this kind of jump in a single hand before. From being the one almost waiting for to be kicked out, to the favorite.

Last edited by plaaynde; 05-03-2014 at 04:28 PM.
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05-03-2014 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
From scratch to riches:
Can't remember this kind of jump in a single hand before. From being the one almost waiting for to be kicked out, to the favorite.
Sweet. Up by a factor of 4.4 or so and you knocked out one opponent.

Congratulations.

Buzz
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05-04-2014 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzz
Sweet. Up by a factor of 4.4 or so and you knocked out one opponent.

Congratulations.

Buzz
Thanks. Happened to win the tournament too, nice bonus.

Have found that "a chip and a chair" often works in the hypers. Even if you have say 10-50 chips, then the antes, blinds, and folds on later streets can boost you up in a few hands, you are collecting a lot of dead money.

In this case I had a smallish stack, but still with enough mass to accomplish this in a single hand, was stunned. I'm mostly single tabling, so I have time to pay attention to these sorts of things...

Last edited by plaaynde; 05-04-2014 at 12:50 AM.
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05-04-2014 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Happened to win the tournament too
Congratulations.

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I'm mostly single tabling, so I have time to pay attention to these sorts of things...
Good point.

Buzz
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05-04-2014 , 04:21 AM
Now that I'm a bit confident I might be winner at the $1.50s, it's time to look forward






Came up with this idiot proof non-busting strategy: when my total hypers real money is above 0, then I'll play the $3.50s and when it's below, then I'll play the $1.50s. FPPs and Vip-stellars will guarantee an ever so small profit anyway. And if I would find a way to win at the $3.50s, what could be better?

Last edited by plaaynde; 05-04-2014 at 04:33 AM.
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05-04-2014 , 10:25 AM
Button has been shoving quite a bit on this specific bubble, especially, from small to big blind. He is definitely not a regular yet, the first day I saw him in hypers. Have some hands from MTTs on him. BB is also new, but has been playing 50+ hypers today. He seems rather tight from what I saw. How close is the decision? My default is to fold, but I'm not sure where the cutoff would be in terms of distance in chips between me and BB.


    Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BB: 294 (4.9 bb)
    BTN: 1,779 (29.7 bb)
    Hero (SB): 927 (15.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 A Q 2
    BTN raises to 1,773 and is all-in
    Hero ?

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    05-04-2014 , 11:23 AM
    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation[/URL]
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
    4d Ad Qh 2h56.85% 226,759278,57635,029221,01753,476
    a43.15% 148,380286,39535,02947,00453,476

    I think it's a call. Villain scoops only maybe 1/4 of the cases, your equity most probably is better than villain, crippling him would make you the favorite for the win. Short stack may hang on for very long, split-pot nature of the game makes it more probable for him to survive. If he doubles up your sacrifices have been in vain. If you fold this, you will have to fold a lot more, that implied folding will hurt you the most, the equity losses ad up.


    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation[/URL]
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
    4d Ad Qh 2h49.70% 169,247237,29747,593166,240103,273
    6%50.30% 175,748315,11047,59346,180103,273

    Your hand is among the 6% best, changed the % until they matched

    Last edited by plaaynde; 05-04-2014 at 11:43 AM.
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    05-04-2014 , 11:47 AM
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    Originally Posted by Brunolf
    Button has been shoving quite a bit on this specific bubble, especially, from small to big blind. He is definitely not a regular yet, the first day I saw him in hypers. Have some hands from MTTs on him. BB is also new, but has been playing 50+ hypers today. He seems rather tight from what I saw. How close is the decision? My default is to fold, but I'm not sure where the cutoff would be in terms of distance in chips between me and BB.


      Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 3 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: 294 (4.9 bb)
      BTN: 1,779 (29.7 bb)
      Hero (SB): 927 (15.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 A Q 2
      BTN raises to 1,773 and is all-in
      Hero ?

      Crappy spot really. You can go either way on these to be honest but bearing in mind your description of shorty, I would be inclined to fold. The hand itself probably makes it close ICM wise but I haven't run a sim for a while so can't be 100% sure what it would say. Racking my brains, I suspect you need around 60% to get it in.
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      05-04-2014 , 11:55 AM
      Is there any ICM calculator designed for the split pot game? Apparently not? We will have to more or less guess.

      This is from 2011, but googling doesn't give anything more to me: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/t...hreadid=110195

      Last edited by plaaynde; 05-04-2014 at 12:06 PM.
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      05-04-2014 , 11:58 AM
      I would call thinking that button is just stack-shoving to purposely scare you off and isolate BB. It's not 100% straight-forward because, as you know, the big-stacks have a wild tendency to crush all those before them, esp in 6-max. You could probably fold every hand to cash if you didn't wanna risk racing when 3-2 on or better.

      What did you do? My guess is that having posted, you called and got sucked out?
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      05-04-2014 , 01:00 PM
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      Originally Posted by plaaynde
      Is there any ICM calculator designed for the split pot game? Apparently not? We will have to more or less guess.

      This is from 2011, but googling doesn't give anything more to me: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/t...hreadid=110195
      No calculator but if you do enough research you can calculate it yourself perfectly accurately.
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      05-04-2014 , 01:09 PM
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      Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
      I would call thinking that button is just stack-shoving to purposely scare you off and isolate BB. It's not 100% straight-forward because, as you know, the big-stacks have a wild tendency to crush all those before them, esp in 6-max. You could probably fold every hand to cash if you didn't wanna risk racing when 3-2 on or better.

      What did you do? My guess is that having posted, you called and got sucked out?
      You think that is the reason for posting? I was 2-tabling so had a lot of time to think about spots and I didn't know what to do here with the description of villains. That's why I post. To hear opinions from other people and not getting a "you played it well" from others.
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      05-04-2014 , 01:16 PM
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      Originally Posted by streityboy
      No calculator but if you do enough research you can calculate it yourself perfectly accurately.
      Sounds tiresome
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      05-04-2014 , 01:43 PM
      You probably know my opinion about the spot Brunolf
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      05-04-2014 , 02:02 PM
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      Originally Posted by Brunolf
      You think that is the reason for posting? I was 2-tabling so had a lot of time to think about spots and I didn't know what to do here with the description of villains. That's why I post. To hear opinions from other people and not getting a "you played it well" from others.
      I don't know man but did you call or fold and what happened? These posts are like American TV shows, the cliffhanger then, "next week on ...... "
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      05-04-2014 , 02:13 PM
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      Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
      I don't know man but did you call or fold and what happened? These posts are like American TV shows, the cliffhanger then, "next week on ...... "
      Results orientation itt...
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      05-04-2014 , 02:16 PM
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      Originally Posted by Brunolf
      Button has been shoving quite a bit on this specific bubble, especially, from small to big blind. He is definitely not a regular yet, the first day I saw him in hypers. Have some hands from MTTs on him. BB is also new, but has been playing 50+ hypers today. He seems rather tight from what I saw. How close is the decision? My default is to fold, but I'm not sure where the cutoff would be in terms of distance in chips between me and BB.


        Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 3 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        BB: 294 (4.9 bb)
        BTN: 1,779 (29.7 bb)
        Hero (SB): 927 (15.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 A Q 2
        BTN raises to 1,773 and is all-in
        Hero ?

        I always wonder about the possibillity of being up against AA** when someone shoves in NLO8. And indeed, you're behind AA**:
        ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
        600,000 trials (Randomized)
        Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
        Ad4dQh2h45.41% 168,078196,8417,220236,90241,886
        AA**54.59% 218,174395,9397,22030,82441,886
        But you're not behind much else. Given your impression of Villain ("Button has been shoving quite a bit on this specific bubble"), I think you should call.

        Buzz
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        05-04-2014 , 02:19 PM
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        Originally Posted by Ziemni0k
        You probably know my opinion about the spot Brunolf
        I've been disgusted at how you've played lately. You keep snap-calling me when a fairly substantial dog (hands like 2 3 4 Q and A 5 6 T) and then position-shoving me with hands like 6 7 8 J rainbow.

        I just gotta temper your earlier brag ITT by pointing out that you have hit 2000 games $16-35 and are still behind the card. That's inclusive of a 500 streak top 10. Nice. Clearly you are as awesome as I think you are.
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        05-04-2014 , 02:32 PM
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        You probably know my opinion about the spot Brunolf
        Brunolf might, but I don't have a clue and I'm interested in your opinion too. (Maybe other readers are, as well).

        Buzz
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        05-04-2014 , 02:42 PM
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        Brunolf might, but I don't have a clue and I'm interested in your opinion too. (Maybe other readers are, as well).

        Buzz
        100% call. If it was blackjack, he would double down
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        05-04-2014 , 05:22 PM
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        Originally Posted by Buzz
        Brunolf might, but I don't have a clue and I'm interested in your opinion too. (Maybe other readers are, as well).

        Buzz
        Yea, you are right. I'm sorry. That wasn't too nice from me

        I would almost always call there. Short has 5BB which is still not that bad for hypers in bubble situations, and a lot may happen. Someone has already told that the short stack may hang quite a long time there which we should also take in mind.

        As for hand range. From the information gathered I would give him ~40% of hand range, against which we have a nice equity:

        ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
        600,000 trials (Randomized)
        Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
        AdQh2h4d58.21% 241,060292,62123,634231,02439,366
        40%41.79% 146,467283,74523,63452,36639,366

        In my opinion by folding there, you are (how should I say it) losing a lot of money in longterm, which you can win. (I'm sorry if I have said the way you may not understand - Language barrier )

        Also if you are going to fold a lot you are an easy target for agressive players who steal a lot, so a call may be also a message for them you are not going to give away blinds that easily and etc. though the situation is a bad example for giving a message


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        Quantum I don't think I've been recently playing bad. I know suckouts may hurt but man.. I am also getting them. Not long time ago I improved my game so it is a matter of time when I will be on + at the midstakes.

        GL at tables.
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        05-04-2014 , 07:24 PM
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        Originally Posted by Ziemni0k
        Yea, you are right. I'm sorry. That wasn't too nice from me

        I would almost always call there. Short has 5BB which is still not that bad for hypers in bubble situations, and a lot may happen. Someone has already told that the short stack may hang quite a long time there which we should also take in mind.

        As for hand range. From the information gathered I would give him ~40% of hand range, against which we have a nice equity:

        ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
        600,000 trials (Randomized)
        Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
        AdQh2h4d58.21% 241,060292,62123,634231,02439,366
        40%41.79% 146,467283,74523,63452,36639,366

        In my opinion by folding there, you are (how should I say it) losing a lot of money in longterm, which you can win. (I'm sorry if I have said the way you may not understand - Language barrier )
        No problem. I understand you perfectly. Thank you for replying.

        Buzz
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        05-04-2014 , 07:55 PM
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        Also if you are going to fold a lot you are an easy target for agressive players who steal a lot, so a call may be also a message for them you are not going to give away blinds that easily and etc.
        I'm with you 100% on this. If you are playing any reasonable stakes, you will come up against one of the regs and they WILL eat you alive with shove-steals if they think they can get away with it. From my perspective, I broke the backs of many regs (like johnniewalker, wadzon, bokkie87, juicy_j in particular) who used to position-shove me virtually 100% of the time because they thought I would only call with top 5% hands. For a long time I selected the "call any" button when JJ or wadzon were in SB, me in BB. They soon learnt to fold their rags and only shove premium, which opened the games up massively for me. Rather than me being scared of their shoves, they became wary of my "ability" to literally call any 4 in the BB to their moves. In 18-man games I had the same issue with angryjuice and juicy_j. Not any more, right guys?

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        Quantum I don't think I've been recently playing bad. I know suckouts may hurt but man.. I am also getting them. Not long time ago I improved my game so it is a matter of time when I will be on + at the midstakes.

        GL at tables.
        You went on a streak this week of 15 consecutive hands quarter/scoop vs me against the odds before I scooped my FIRST hand when I SB shoved A 5 9 J and you insta-called A 5 6 T in the BB. I had one more hold after that today but that's still 15-2 in your favour this week. You are yet to get in ahead vs me in 17 hands, IMHO that's pretty shocking play. I think I've made about $700 last 10 days at those stakes, inclusive of all the beats vs you, johnniewalker, hunmatt, lukro, salisero and bullstopper.


        For a supernova OH8 reg, you have been playing bad recently in my games, trust me. So many times you are calling with any 2 3 4 X and sometimes any ace. That's why you haven't been making $s. Also when big stack you have been way too aggressive, even by big-stack 6-max standards. Don't get sucked into playing like johnniewalker or wadzon - it only works if you are a complete luckbox and are willing to swallow the HUGE swings that both those guys, esp wadzon, take on a regular basis.

        Also you should know that when Juicy_J has been a top 6-max player and has posted a losing record in 2014, that even if you do play a brand of "perfect", that's not necessarily enough to win in 6-max.
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        05-07-2014 , 10:38 AM
        Angribob, you wished me good luck when we were heads up in the recent 3.50, at my new stake, thanks! I have some problems to respond in chat, have to inactivate my Enter hotkey for all-in first

        So far it appears many players are even worse than at 1.50. "Rake" is only 5% per tournament, while it was 7% at 1.50. Let's see...

        Last edited by plaaynde; 05-07-2014 at 10:57 AM.
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        05-07-2014 , 02:11 PM
        yay running like absolute cack for a long time now. Over 6000 games b/e wooop:

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