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01-30-2014 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by xQuantum1
I hate the majority of the [deleted] posting here
german native speaker here. this sounded really funny to me, never heard someone calling somebody donkey f*****

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01-30-2014 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bansky11
german native speaker here. this sounded really funny to me, never heard someone calling somebody donkey f*****
[mod edit to delete more nonsense]

You guys should have bet the under.

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01-30-2014 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Spudhead
Serious question guys I wonder why so many of you prefer to play N/L Hypers instead of P/L or F/L cash ?

Surely if you are a good player then it is better to play cash where there is less variance and most hands aren't all in pre when you are often less than a 55% favourite ?

I have played a few Hypers but I feel I have a much bigger edge and its far easier to exploit the fish playing cash games when you actually get to see a flop.

Do you prefer Hypers for the VPP's or just because you like gambling or some other reason ?
I was paying too much in rake so I stopped playing cash games. I also like Battle of Planets promotion which gives a nice cash bonus after you get a heater which is why

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Originally Posted by xQuantum1
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I really don't know why anyone would play $500 hyper-turbos (wadzon, bokkie, J-J, idb99, bleu329, yoeyonfire, magic dust, 1checkitout1, macros, jani osmo (proper player)) when that $500 could go to a cash game, the wednesday $530 PL OH8, Sunday Mil + warmups or SCOOP, TCOOP etc.
are playing these (I guess). And for VPP too.
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01-30-2014 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by xQuantum1
Thanks mod, I like you, but you are fighting a losing battle. Ask these guys what I'm like at the tables - no censorship whatsoever and I have learnt to swear in 5 diff languages - had my chat banned by PS maybe 8 times in the last 2 years. I give it a max of 10 more posts before you bar me from this forum, mostly because I hate the majority of [deleted]
why would they ban such a lol unlikeable user? I've been here for a Cpl of years now....

I honestly hope I don't come across as much of a c0ck as u though..that would make me
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01-31-2014 , 12:12 AM
i´m still here buzz i think 2+2 is the website i´ve been the most loyal to over the years. last year i had a span of about 6 weeks where i didnt surf on 2+2 but kept the tab for the hi/lo forum open just because i found it weird not to have at least one 2+2 tab in my browser^^

so far i failed to read a not edited post from quantum. niss is always a step ahead of me.

hi quantum! good job making a fool out of yourself.that whole freedom of speech thing to defend your insults -that´s what free speech is about, isn´t it!
keep it coming, what other rights do we have and how can we interpret them in the most perverted ways?

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01-31-2014 , 12:14 AM
oh wow- buzz post buzzed away
and quantum is banned and made a new acc already! i gotta move up my posting speed and stop thinking about what i write
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01-31-2014 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by booink
i´m still here buzz i think 2+2 is the website i´ve been the most loyal to over the years. last year i had a span of about 6 weeks where i didnt surf on 2+2 but kept the tab for the hi/lo forum open just because i found it weird not to have at least one 2+2 tab in my browser^^

so far i failed to read a not edited post from quantum. niss is always a step ahead of me.

hi quantum! good job making a fool out of yourself.that whole freedom of speech thing to defend your insults -that´s what free speech is about, isn´t it!
keep it coming, what other rights do we have and how can we interpret them in the most perverted ways?

omg that's ur best post in all of these years!!
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01-31-2014 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hake110
This is going to be a lot fun!

Banned in 6... 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...!
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01-31-2014 , 08:39 AM
just to clear things up for those that didnt stay up till very late at night yesterday:

buzz wrote a little essay towards quantum about the profanity filter and other things. while i was writing a post (and maybe quantum replied and post got deleted) buzz decided that it wasn´t worth discussing, erased his post and quantum got banhammered (dont know for sure who banned him and doesnt really matter imo).
then quantum made a 2nd account stating that it was so easy to make a new account and that he will never be stopped in his right of free speech. that post is deleted as well

i´m wondering how long it will take for quantum to realize that its a lot easier for a mod to ban a new account than for him making one.

this is Voll all over again. only thing that is missing is some beating on giff because the MU is too damn high!!!!111
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01-31-2014 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by booink
just to clear things up for those that didnt stay up till very late at night yesterday:

buzz wrote a little essay towards quantum about the profanity filter and other things. while i was writing a post (and maybe quantum replied and post got deleted) buzz decided that it wasn´t worth discussing, erased his post and quantum got banhammered (dont know for sure who banned him and doesnt really matter imo).
Not quite the way it happened.

I did respond to quantum. Sometimes when I write a post, something else captures my attention for a while before I am finished. And then some time may ensue from the time I start writing until the time I post. And that is what happened. I composed part of my reply, went to the laundry room and continued tending laundry, fixed some broccoli/beef noodles (delicious), and then came back into the computer room, finished my response to quantum, then before looking to see if anyone else had responded, posted my response, and finally went back to the laundry room.

In the meanwhile, quantum's post to which I had responded had been deleted and quantum had been banned (permanently). I had stupidly posted without realizing any of that. When I came back and realized my blunder, I deleted my post.

We mods cannot delete anything without a note of that deletion being left where the post originally was.

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then quantum made a 2nd account stating that it was so easy to make a new account and that he will never be stopped in his right of free speech. that post is deleted as well
Everybody has the right of free speech, but nobody has the right to post their free speech wherever they want to post it. quantum didn't get in trouble for his thoughts... he got in trouble for continuing to post egregious insults here after he had been asked not to do that.

This forum (the Omaha-8 forum) is a place for people who are interested in Omaha-8 and the thoughts of others who are interested in Omaha-8. For what it's worth, we're concerned about the drop in participation and we don't want to drive anyone interested in posting about Omaha-8 or the thoughts of others who are interested in Omaha-8 away. However, there's no evidence quantum was interested in seriously discussing Omaha-8 or the thoughts of others who are interested in Omaha-8.

This thread is interesting. Since you started the thread, booink, you know more about the original intention of the thread than I do. As I recall, you wanted a thread with little or no moderation, where posters could post freely. And it turns out this low moderation thread is one of our most popular threads.

But what are we to do as forum mods when someone complains to us about being insulted in this thread? (And that is what happened).

We choose words to describe our thoughts and feelings to others. "Mazzelpik," "lucky bastard," "lucky prick," and "lucky dick" all mean about the same thing to me. I don't take any of the three literally. To me those terms are all part of friendly male insult banter, actually terms of non-homosexual affection.

The secret of friendly male insult banter is having the good sense to know when it is and isn't appropriate... when it will be taken as friendly as opposed to taken as an offensive insult.

Alas, everybody doesn't have that good sense.

That's my opinion.

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i´m wondering how long it will take for quantum to realize that its a lot easier for a mod to ban a new account than for him making one.

this is Voll all over again. only thing that is missing is some beating on giff because the MU is too damn high!!!!111
Nice to have you back posting again, booink. Take care.

Buzz
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01-31-2014 , 07:13 PM
I was prepared to let the guy hang around, particularly since he was posting in this thread. I just asked him to avoid slurs and similar language not allowed on 2+2. His response was to make another post filled with slurs. It was clear he was going to make more work than his entertainment value justified so I just banned him. If he wants to try again to participate without using words like those that insult gays, which are not allowed on 2+2, and without bitching about the mods and why he was banned and freedom of speech yada yada, I'm fine with it.
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02-01-2014 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzz
before looking to see if anyone else had responded, posted my response
ah, so i m not the only one
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Originally Posted by Buzz
This thread is interesting. Since you started the thread, booink, you know more about the original intention of the thread than I do. As I recall, you wanted a thread with little or no moderation, where posters could post freely. And it turns out this low moderation thread is one of our most popular threads.
the original intention was to have a place specific for hypers like the 18man thread. for low content,graphs, maybe a quick hand checkup,maybe finding a way to beat jj and bookie and well...general hyper-sng talk.

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"lucky dick"
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Originally Posted by Buzz
The secret of friendly male insult banter is having the good sense to know when it is and isn't appropriate... when it will be taken as friendly as opposed to taken as an offensive insult.

Alas, everybody doesn't have that good sense.

That's my opinion.
spot on, nothing to add.
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Originally Posted by Buzz
Nice to have you back posting again, booink. Take care.

Buzz
thanks. lets see what today brings, could be anything between -2k and +10k...lol tcoop


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Originally Posted by niss
yada yada
no need to argue in that case
and this is the end of the Xquantum-files...OR IS IT NOT?
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02-01-2014 , 01:59 PM
Hello!
My nick in PS is "L. Ansinelli". Know almost everyone of you, it's nice to share this forum with you
Hope to get back to +15 hypers by april or may! Just need to treat well my bank
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02-01-2014 , 02:03 PM
hello
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02-02-2014 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by xQuantum1
What use is the internet without absolute freedom of speech?
just because i was surfing a bit on wikipedia and you are still sitting in the uk while using the internet:
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Originally Posted by wiki
United Kingdom citizens have a negative right to freedom of expression under the common law.........However there is a broad sweep of exceptions including threatening, abusive or insulting words or behavior intending or likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress or cause a breach of the peace (which has been used to prohibit racist speech targeted at individuals),.........treason including compassing or imagining the death of the monarch or advocating for the abolition of the monarchy (which cannot be successfully prosecuted)
you guys aren´t allowed to even talk about getting rid of the monarchy thats harsh!
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02-03-2014 , 12:25 AM
yeah! REALLY harsh!
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02-03-2014 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
Considering these factors:
1) We both play hypers as our primary game multi-tabling
2) We are both members of the same skype omaha 8 chat group
3) We both have often have Skype open while playing our sessions (and while not playing for that matter)

That would you not think that
4) We have chatted at some point while playing is pretty bloody likely?

Except this is where your argument falls flat. This is because you have made a number of assumptions about the content of any communication.

You assume that a) we are talking about poker b) we are talking about the same table c) that we are talking about colluding.

To illustrate this point further.

Phil Galfond, Ben Sulsky and Hac Dang are all good friends clearly. They run RunItOnce.com. They are all proven as exceptional poker players in their own right.

They will have each others email addresses, phone numbers and skype handles. They probably have all these at hand when playing a session against themselves and others.

By having all forms of communication with each other available, they be a) using them b) using them to collude.



Well we born with brains and a mouth so it's going to happen at some point. I mean Stars gave everyone a chat box and the nonsense I get called can only be proof that people like to communicate.

But heh communication can take many different forms, insults, compliments, conversations about woman, god, politics, racism etc. If I spoke to you about living in Mexico in the chat box would that be collusion because by your deductive assumptions it must be?



Feel free to do that. My Stars handle is luckyfool149. I would say I am a relatively modest winner who has only started to take poker a little more seriously in the last year.

Unfortunately, no proof has actually been forthcoming on Malloy despite repeated requests to yourself and playahata.

The human brain likes to simplify the world and seeks explanations to further their understanding. That's where evidence comes in. And this lack of evidence is at fault for people's reaction to you ITT.

You cannot keep bandying around accusations with no proof. It's just not acceptable or reasonable in this community.



I have never really considered how you would do it until your insightful post above. It makes a lot of logical sense.

Does your discussion on the subject mean you are more knowledgeable about it and that you must be cheating?

No. Not at all. It just means I could easily leap from a) to e) on the causal chain and accuse you of cheating because of your intimate knowledge of the subject.



Unfortunately, we cannot ask Malloy because he has disappeared. Therefore, we are asking you and hata, because you have made these specific allegations to tell us. We are appealing to your higher knowledge, because there are very bright people on here who have played far more games than you against him who didn't notice

Here are some statistics we do have available though.



No-one has played more than 5% of Malloy's total games with him. Every one of them except 2 I have played against in recent weeks and all as far as I can see have active accounts.

P.S A handful of the people on this list are in the skype group (MASSIVE COLLUSION ALERT).



This and this. +1.





Dude. I genuinely can't believe that you wrote this. You have made allegations (see above and almost all responses on this page) to the effect of "where is the evidence?"

We must all be smacked off our tits on coke to want actual evidence. We are crazy to be in the majority on this one. Crazy.
Huh?

If you want some hi stakes hu action pm me, you or anyone of the short stack jokes itt. Actions speak louder than words and I just made probably more than your annual poker profits on the super bowl.

I also know for a fact that the colluders itt will not pm me for hu for obvious reasons, can't collude in hu.

Also the "good" players in this thread will not attempt to play me either as I am world class when motivated, picking apart your tendencies and dynamically altering my ranges on every street to exploit you guys like the marginally educated clowns most of you are. People itt can't handle deep stack play and no one here will dare pm me for hu, clowns gonna clown.

Damn, just realizing my mailbox will stay empty of all hu offers makes me smile so wide. I am trying to stay humble despite the obvious. I have spent more on party favors than approximately 95% of you will make in your lifetimes. I battle daily to delude myself into humility. My mailbox is waiting for your replies.

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02-03-2014 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by niss
Peso,

While it is certainly in the community's interest to stamp out collusion, soft play, cheating, etc., at each and every turn, even merely implying that people are cheating because they talk in real life is pretty far out there. You're going to need a lot more than that to make the allegation; otherwise you do a whole lot more harm than good (a) to the people who are the subject of your implication and (b) to the community at large.

As others have said, if you suspect people of cheating, report it to the site and let them investigate it. After the investigation, if we find out that there were cheaters, let's identify them and dance on their graves. If the investigation proves unsatisfactory, lay your proof bare here and we'll judge.

But don't accuse or imply that specific posters here are cheating merely because they want to skype.
Ok cool, I will just challenge everyone here to high stakes heads up action and never get a response. Take it easy bra.
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02-03-2014 , 03:58 AM
No need for PM. HU SNGs 7-15 your on. Whichever stakes you want to play. I think I'd prefer 15 to make it worthwhile but since that's almost 4x your average buy in I am not so sure you will take it. 4 tables too so I don't get bored. I don't play cash btw.

You just made more than 1.2k on the Superbowl? How, what was your bet? I was thinking of betting myself but I have no clue about American Football. Congrats.
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02-03-2014 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by The Viper
Am I right in thinking you've found yourself in a 3 handed situation where you are a middle stack like 1,000 chips, when theres a big stack 1,600 and a small stack 400....blinds 50/100..as an example? Then the big stack is attacking your big blinds all the time? If that's the case then you'd do well to think strategically about what the big stack gains from doing this. If stacks are around 1,000/1,000/1,000 and a player is constantly attacking one player in particular, it could also be that he thinks that players call off range is way too tight and he can exploit it, or the other player calls off really wide and so bluff shoving against him isn't a great idea.
If you do think there's something dodgy going on though there's no harm in reporting it so it can be looked into. Stars have a special team of people who investigate this type of thing I think, so they'd soon spot any strange betting patterns or anything like that.
Love this "Poker for Dummies" hand example. I barely play hypers and answered this question itt way better than you could have.

The fact you think this hand example actually tests any significant poker skills exposes how poorly developed your deep stack play is. Open offer, mailbox gonna stay empty, GL playing those hypers.

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02-03-2014 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
No need for PM. HU SNGs 7-15 your on. Whichever stakes you want to play. I think I'd prefer 15 to make it worthwhile but since that's almost 4x your average buy in I am not so sure you will take it. 4 tables too so I don't get bored. I don't play cash btw.

You just made more than 1.2k on the Superbowl? How, what was your bet? I was thinking of betting myself but I have no clue about American Football. Congrats.
Yeah much more than that. My offers was hi stakes deep stack play, do you think that multi tabling $15-30 hypers as you suggested qualifies? I plan on not smoking my 10g daily intake of weed if anyone steps up, gl.
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02-03-2014 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
No need for PM. HU SNGs 7-15 your on. Whichever stakes you want to play. I think I'd prefer 15 to make it worthwhile but since that's almost 4x your average buy in I am not so sure you will take it. 4 tables too so I don't get bored. I don't play cash btw.

You just made more than 1.2k on the Superbowl? How, what was your bet? I was thinking of betting myself but I have no clue about American Football. Congrats.
Four + tables of $5-10 is more my speed. I play 30+ tables at once, so playing 4 deep stacked cash will make it easy to shred you. Your ranges on later streets at deeper stack sizes are mediocre at best, cant wait to see if you man up for some real stakes. I seriously doubt anyone here can make the constant and fluid range adjustments to exploit their opponents at this level. That is why my pm box will remain empty of any serious offers, damn I goooottttt.
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02-03-2014 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by peso2paydirt
Four + tables of $5-10 is more my speed. I play 30+ tables at once, so playing 4 deep stacked cash will make it easy to shred you. Your ranges on later streets at deeper stack sizes are mediocre at best, cant wait to see if you man up for some real stakes. I seriously doubt anyone here can make the constant and fluid range adjustments to exploit their opponents at this level. That is why my pm box will remain empty of any serious offers, damn I goooottttt.
I just wet myself with laughter. This is super good trolling. I will PM some of the people on here who play that high if you want? I suspect your wacked out on some crazy drug/really drunk atm so may not be able to lucidly construct messages for these people so I can do it on your behalf. Call me the negotiator.
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02-03-2014 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
I just wet myself with laughter. This is super good trolling. I will PM some of the people on here who play that high if you want? I suspect your wacked out on some crazy drug/really drunk atm so may not be able to lucidly construct messages for these people so I can do it on your behalf. Call me the coward.
FYP. I haven't drank in almost 5 years, yet I have spent more gambling profits on wines than 90% of you will ever make gambling. Not sure how you even know you are playing against quoting whatever you said about abi. I am a life long pro who has played 5 figure buy in games regularly over many years. Obviously my offer is as public as I can make it. Seems like you turned into a cowardly punk wanting to go find a big brother to challenge me. Grow some testes and play me.
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02-03-2014 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
I just wet myself with laughter. This is super good trolling. I will PM some of the people on here who play that high if you want? I suspect your wacked out on some crazy drug/really drunk atm so may not be able to lucidly construct messages for these people so I can do it on your behalf. Call me the negotiator.
Read my post about money laundering and duping sports books in the low content sports gambling forum. I am perfectly sober and I am in Mexico to play for a purpose. I do not respect the vast majority(98%) of the players itt, especially when it comes to hi stakes deep stacked play.

The people I have met off this site remind me of degens, not educated, questionable social skills, and definitely not making it with the ladies, lol. I was betting 3000$ on sports games in college and played 10k buy in with drug dealers. Now I am a middle aged man who destroyed internet poker throughout the golden era and now I am so scared of the "greats" who may challenge me itt, yeah right.

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