haha Basically...I used to think breaking even for awhile was running bad :

there is so little skill in these compared with other forms of 08 that even mules like wadzon can profit.(well if you add on his secret rakeback)

But u guys carry on thinking there is huge strategy in em. As long as u ain't a total donut u either flip well or don't flip well.

thats what separates you from from better players billy

What is secret rake back and how would one go about getting such a thing?

The old faster the structure less skill involved argument. I guess there is some merit to it but like all forms of O8 compared to more popular games like holdem we are at a far less advanced state. The games are not overly difficult to beat if you work at it because the average player is not playing all that well. Even myself Im sure I make a ton of mistakes and still have a lot to learn in this format. Personally I dont just expect everyone to play bad forever so I'm always working on finding more and more little edges. I have no doubt I'm paying attention to and factoring in a lot more at the tables than anyone else is right now. Right now there are so many players who think they play well because they have ran well over 5000 games which in nothing in hypers. There are probably 5+ players in the top 20 in profit on SS leaderboard who are probably losing players long term.

Sure there is more to learn in mtts and cash games but there is still a lot to learn when it comes to hypers. I certainly don't mind seeing Lukro, Vandir4ek, Janiosmo, or other skilled players from other formats as from what I have seen they all mostly have many leaks I can take advantage of in this format.

Billy I do think you play ok at hypers but just because you do doesnt mean every mtt player does which you have mentioned before. A lot of them who play don't play very well.

mmm a bit lame

ftops jersey winners ain't allowed to know about it gtfo

well I am a bit disapointed with the lack of biting but pretty good response jj.

I was half serious and half trolling coz I am bitter at runnin so ****e. hands up...

well just looking at the top 20 in 5-15 buyin coz that's the only one and the 1st name to stand out that should fit a long time losing player unless he stops being a mule beings with W and ends with N

i think most of the regs play shove/call too wide in various spots. I prolly do too so tightening up a bit..well tryin too. I'd say in general i don't have any glaring leaks in ht's i guess it's possible i am biased.

did i mention somewhere i also think stars rng is horse****? must have...

so i'm going to attempt to hit 10k games by say end jan'ish

expected profit between 7-10k(that's total)
anything less uninstall forever.

i am due a huge massive gigantic heater so that should get things going. will play 18 man's also just incase stars is still cheating me.



gonna enjoy punishing wadfish

more gay emoticons pls wad

nice Russian collusion

... a new level, billygstar...

my posts don't appeal to that renowned German sense of humour then??

i don't think you are doing jokes here... you are just frustrated and can't deal with it

w/e u say

i'm hoping to be the 3rd best ht player in the world like ur good self.

Dude. There's no hope about it. You just have to believe it in your own mind and you are. Just believe Billy, just believe.

Hey guys, I think in 2014 to get access to the o8 part of 2+2 everybody has to send a picture of his exact measured genitals to a Mod.

Pictures have to be with player name written on a piece of paper or wherever you want(no photoshop), they are going to be posted as a sticky (in case you are friends with another o8 player, no pics of sword fights allowed).


All discussions of anything end up in "who has the longest"... what do you guys think?
This way we all finally know whats up!

What would Nelson Mandela think of this ****? What would Nelson think. Shame on you all.

moneywise, only juicy and wadzon could beat me.. the rest simply would not put in enough sample + decent roi.. but hey, I didn't play these games for like a month and people still have me in mind for that lol.. I feel like i did something right.. its simply ridic how easy that leaderboard this year would have been to win... wadzon has most games with only 50k games... i would have 100k games at this point if i would play these all year... just say'in

are you getting urself confused with booink? Could that be it?

you have less than 3k profit with 13k games played. Why do you keep saying you have made the 3rd most money or only 2 can beat you. I think you're saying that pro rata you would be at the top if you played 50-100k games. That can be said for any1 with an roi over 4% lol. And you just about have that so yeah I guess you would be up there.

bizzare....

its realy low that i have to explain this... you shud know how swingy these games are.. and I am THE ONLY ONE to see my EV... and from the EV i can say that i would probably easyly win a yearly leaderboard.. obviously I don't know how everyone else is "running" but i can still "expect" myself to be top 3 then... i also don't know if these dudes play other games at the same time and would put in more hypers if they would play it exclusively but i can still " expect " and the thing with 100k games in a year is that i dont believe everyone could play that amount while this isnt realy much, thats not even a 40-hours-week.. but i could easyly do it so it would be eay to win, where is the problem dude, thats just the facts...no offends, I don't know why people dont get in higher volume, everybody has his reasons, i wont play too much in the future aswell as i want to stop playing full time

Amazing! In the very same sentence you don't know why people don't play more and you want to stop playing full time.

I think know why people don't play more. Three reasons:

(1) You lose some of your edge when you play tired. (Or at least I do).

(2) Playing multiple games simultaneously can be frazzling (at least for me).

(3) Too much of a good thing ceases to be a good thing.

Buzz

what a patient man you are buzz

I couldn't get myself to decrypt the wall of txt.

just makes me laugh you have it engraved un your head that you are a top 3 player. Fine you can think to yourself you have the commitment to be top 3 in profit. I was going to say skill but commitment would be a better word.

But the reality is you have played 13k games with a modest profit of 3k so you just look silly telling every here that you are in the top 3. I am trying to help so don't get all ****ty with me lol

I would add...as much as I slag off wadfish it's impressive that he has played a zillion of these and actually still seems up beat about em.

you'd think he wouldn't be less terrible though. Same with jj and angru. They've played a **** huge amount of em and still going strong.

thats the point, they actually did not play a sick amount of hypers this year... thats what you don't get i think... in the end its all about $/hour and the abillity to play at least a decent amount of hours and my EV $/hour after rakeback is about 30-40$ / hour in 7-15's ... i just guess that hourly + the amount of hours I could get in would put me in top 3.. i guess this is the last statement on this for me, getting kinda bored... somehow funny tho

edit: money is not everything in life, thats why i focus on having fun these days and stoped putting in a lot of work for good hourly.. cause it made me mad some time - the money was not worth it.... like: i made 5k last month but i didnt feel any better about my life as when i made 2-3 k the months before... I'm more about having fun with poker now, it cuts my hourly but it still feels better

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