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Micro limits - Nut low draw, bad flush draw Micro limits - Nut low draw, bad flush draw

03-13-2011 , 02:15 PM
After I had reviewed the hand, I asked myself if I could have done something better, the play just doesnt feel right.
PLO8 is very new to me, so dont be too harsh. ^^

Stats after ca. 100 Hands: SB had VP$IP about 35, 3bet was still 0. He seemed to be a quite "ok" player for these limits (in my eyes)

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 6 Players

MP: $5 (250 bb)
Hero (CO): $1.31 (65.5 bb)
BTN: $1.76 (88 bb)
SB: $1.37 (68.5 bb)
BB: $1.06 (53 bb)
UTG: $2.75 (137.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 A K T
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.07, BTN folds, SB calls $0.06, BB folds
The raise seems quite standard to me.

Flop: ($0.16) 7 9 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, SB calls $0.16
That he had a straight was unlikely, even a pair besides a pocket pair was unlikely in my opinion. So I tried to take home the pot right now.

Turn: ($0.48) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.34, SB calls $0.34
Now I had the nut low with a bad flush draw, so I tried again, because a big improvement of his hand was unlikely after he checked again.

River: ($1.16) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.74 and is all-in, SB calls $0.74
A last try by me to get it all.


Maybe you'll find some flaws in my way of thinking.
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03-13-2011 , 03:56 PM
All looks standard.
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03-13-2011 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasserkocher
After I had reviewed the hand, I asked myself if I could have done something better, the play just doesnt feel right.
PLO8 is very new to me, so dont be too harsh. ^^
I'm guessing you got quartered. Approximately one time in four, when five opponents are dealt cards and when you are dealt a bare ace-deuce (A2**), someone else will also be dealt A2**. When it happens, in a micro stakes game, there's not any realistic way to get rid of your opponent with A2**.

In this case, I'm guessing Villain had A2** with perhaps any pair.

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Stats after ca. 100 Hands: SB had VP$IP about 35, 3bet was still 0. He seemed to be a quite "ok" player for these limits (in my eyes)

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 6 Players

MP: $5 (250 bb)
Hero (CO): $1.31 (65.5 bb)
BTN: $1.76 (88 bb)
SB: $1.37 (68.5 bb)
BB: $1.06 (53 bb)
UTG: $2.75 (137.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 A K T
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.07, BTN folds, SB calls $0.06, BB folds
The raise seems quite standard to me.
I may or may not raise here, but OK, the raise seems fairly standard.

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Flop: ($0.16) 7 9 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, SB calls $0.16
That he had a straight was unlikely, even a pair besides a pocket pair was unlikely in my opinion. So I tried to take home the pot right now.
I'd bet a dime, but I don't fault 16¢.

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Turn: ($0.48) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.34, SB calls $0.34
Now I had the nut low with a bad flush draw, so I tried again, because a big improvement of his hand was unlikely after he checked again.
I don't fault this, but I might back off here. Whether I did or didn't back off would depend on how I read my opponent. If I thought he might concede, I'd probably bet, just as you did. If I thought he was chasing with an inferior low and nothing for high, I'd probably bet, just as you did. If I thought he had A2** with a pair, a distinct possibility, I'd check behind.

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River: ($1.16) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.74 and is all-in, SB calls $0.74
A last try by me to get it all.
Seems reasonable. You try to convert what seems a one-way hand into a scooper. Three times out of four he figures to not have the same nut low as you, but probably has a better high. Seems like a reasonable gamble if Villain is capable of folding a non-nut low with a trashy high.

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Maybe you'll find some flaws in my way of thinking.
Or maybe you'll find some flaws in mine.

Buzz
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03-13-2011 , 08:53 PM
Thanks for your comments.
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03-14-2011 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasserkocher
Turn: ($0.48) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.34, SB calls $0.34
Now I had the nut low with a bad flush draw, so I tried again, because a big improvement of his hand was unlikely after he checked again.
This is exactly the same spot I'm working on now for my game. It depends on the opponent.

Usually, I would bet 1/3 pot here as a value bet, but not a full one. If raised, I fold against a very competive winner as I don't have any high made at this point. Against a loose regular or fish, I would call and hope he had A4xx or I got flush made and he has nake nut low only. In micro level, there are people who always make pot bet with nut low made turn. I would take a note on them, and fold 4 times to their bet, and when I got both way hands, I will suck out every penny and more from them.

I used to find myself impossible to fold naked nut low on any board, and came to realize how much money I'm losing.
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