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03-20-2011 , 01:14 PM
No reads except that sb is really really bad.

    Poker Stars, $6 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8322102

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 4 J J
    UTG raises, MP calls, CO 3-bets, BTN folds, SB caps, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls

    Flop: (10 SB) T A T (5 players)
    SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP folds, CO raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls, CO caps, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls

    Turn: (9 BB) 5 (4 players)
    SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls, CO raises and is all-in, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls

    River: (11.2 BB) 6 (4 players, 1 is all-in)
    SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls

    Spoiler:
    Results: 12.7 BB pot
    Final Board: T A T 5 6
    CO mucked 8 K K T and lost (-2.6 BB net)
    SB showed A 9 6 2 and lost (-3.1 BB net)
    Hero showed 2 4 J J and won 12.7 BB (9.7 BB net)
    UTG mucked 7 A 7 Q and lost (-3.1 BB net)



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    03-20-2011 , 03:07 PM
    Fold preflop. You don't call 4 bets cold with 24JJ.

    I am guessing SB is one of these guys who raise no matter what until his stack is gone, so his actions mean nothing except that you have to play expensive poker. When you have to play expensive poker you need strong hands which can take solar heat. 24JJ even ds is not enough. I'd even fold SB's hand in that spot, it'd be too weak.

    Postflop you can't like the flop that much and when it comes back round to you for 2 more bets you should probably fold right there. You could be looking at a boat already because there's an A out and a lot of action. But I think you did the right thing calling for 1 bet the first time round, even though your flush will only be the third best possible. The possibility of spiking a J and winning a huge pot from ATxx alleviates that problem.
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    03-20-2011 , 03:50 PM
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    Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
    Fold preflop. You don't call 4 bets cold with 24JJ.

    I am guessing SB is one of these guys who raise no matter what until his stack is gone, so his actions mean nothing except that you have to play expensive poker. When you have to play expensive poker you need strong hands which can take solar heat. 24JJ even ds is not enough. I'd even fold SB's hand in that spot, it'd be too weak.

    Postflop you can't like the flop that much and when it comes back round to you for 2 more bets you should probably fold right there. You could be looking at a boat already because there's an A out and a lot of action. But I think you did the right thing calling for 1 bet the first time round, even though your flush will only be the third best possible. The possibility of spiking a J and winning a huge pot from ATxx alleviates that problem.
    3 Bets and I was oop lol. By really bad I mean he asked if Aces were high or low in 2-7TD then asked again in o8 (not this hand).

    I took a flop simply because there were 4 other people in the hand with at least 3 bets in the hand. Obviously a gamble and not standard by any means.

    If I brick I can get away cheap (2BB isnt cheap lol). On the flop SB leads into, expecting to either be drawing dead or he has a T I elect to call a single bet into a massive pot with a rough backdoor low and bad flush draw.

    Make my flush and the redraw to the 2nd nut low draw. CO was the 3 better preflop with a short stack and shoves the rest in on the turn, ive either been drawing dead this whole time or have a chance to win one of the two pots now, SB also slows down against CO.

    This either plays completely different or not at all in any other position, was just looking for opinions.
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    03-20-2011 , 08:45 PM
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    Originally Posted by JDonk
    No reads except that sb is really really bad.

    [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8322102

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 4 J J
    UTG raises, MP calls, CO 3-bets, BTN folds, SB caps, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls
    Not easy to know what to do here with all this pre-flop action. I want to generally defend my big blind for table image reasons. (I think defending your big blind deters future aggression against you from opponents who are looking for "weak" players). But for three more bets in a capped pot it would be a tough decision for me with this hand. Trouble is you tend to get stuck in the hand when the pot initially becomes large. Five players for four small bets each. That's 20 small bets total.

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    Flop: (10 SB) T A T (5 players)
    Whoa! There's something wrong with your pot accounting. There should be 20 SB, not 10 SB.

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    SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP folds, CO raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls, CO caps, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls
    Wild! I played in a free tournament once and the action was something like this. Once was enough for me!

    Anyhow, you won the hand. Congratulations.

    Buzz
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    03-20-2011 , 08:50 PM
    I'd feel dirty after winning this hand
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    03-20-2011 , 09:37 PM
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    Originally Posted by Buzz
    Not easy to know what to do here with all this pre-flop action. I want to generally defend my big blind for table image reasons. (I think defending your big blind deters future aggression against you from opponents who are looking for "weak" players). But for three more bets in a capped pot it would be a tough decision for me with this hand. Trouble is you tend to get stuck in the hand when the pot initially becomes large. Five players for four small bets each. That's 20 small bets total.

    Whoa! There's something wrong with your pot accounting. There should be 20 SB, not 10 SB.

    Wild! I played in a free tournament once and the action was something like this. Once was enough for me!

    Anyhow, you won the hand. Congratulations.

    Buzz
    I used the hand converter, it might have a problem with limit games in a SNG
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    03-21-2011 , 02:02 PM
    i woulda 5 bet personally, implied odds and all that
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    03-21-2011 , 04:21 PM
    Well I almost shipped the PLO8 1k gaurantee (300 man), got third for 300.

    Barg:

    Yeah idk why the converter messed up the action.

    But the final pot is 32.2 BB.

    Last edited by JDonk; 03-21-2011 at 04:26 PM.
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