I find myself limping more in 6 max small stakes plo8 games, i limp BBBW hands UTG over 60% of the time(and complete my small blind just as often) i do it because the games iv been playing are very wk passive people rarely 3/4 bet. i feel i have a advantage post flop so i practice more pot control. how to better players react to players that limp too much in PLO8, is there such a thing as limping too much in O8

Anyone with a HUD will raise and isolate you frequently.

I guessed I should mention it's on bovada anonymous tables

Don't need a HUD to notice someone playing any4.

Also limp/calling (or defending) almost any4 is pretty much the default strategy of most people playing small stakes plo8, so it's not like I'd need much of a read to assume a random fish was doing that.

Never played Bovada though, maybe it's so weak you can still beat it doing that ... or you are on a massive heater. gg.

i had a bad ****** session lost every race, at the stakes im playing now everyone is a ****** and loves to call its one of the reasons i limp marginal hands from early position, one moron called a 5bt shv from me with QQQA and won the high if i could kill anyone without consequence that idiot from hell is the guy, anyways what is the best strategy for low stakes 08: some say never bluff and nut peddle but is it that easy, how would you become disciplined enough to consistentley do it... PS im playing on bovada anonymous tables so i cant give this guy the berating and ill will he deserves.

also id appreciate advice and developing a solid preflop game i feel i have dominated holdings often A5KQ hands especially if the ace is suited i seem to shove these types of hands and A2QQ hands preflop often. A5KQ are types of hands I play in and out of position but the flop just completely misses my hand. I often cbt or stab the pot but moron after moron continues to call what can i do short wishing my opponents painful and violent demise

also i cant fing stop getting quartered ..... **** you poker gods

First of all you need to change your attitude on the game. There is no justice. Right action does not = right result. Your negativity and sense of entitlement will always weigh heavy on your results and their consistency. Listen to The Eightfold Path To Poker Enlightenment by Tommy Angelo over on DeucesCracked.com and your mentality will improve in a tremendously positive way.

Second of all you sound as though you lack discipline or patience to wait for good hands/situations, and are trying to make something happen. In cash games it isn't really necessary to do that because there is no time limit, the blinds do not increase, and you should have a large amount of money in front of you in relation to the blinds. If you are more patient you will realise there is no need to force the issue. I'm not going to go into hand selection. There's tons of threads and posts about it and I've written about it plenty already. Use the search.

But what I will say is you need to pay more respect to position. If you track results over a significant sample it will show you that the later position you are in the more money you will make. I've said it before. It does not matter what your hand is in position unless you are going to showdown. Out of position, it always matters. You should select situations accordingly.

Nice post i will focus harder on position and my tilt management planning for a better day tomorrow

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I'm especially curious how you play when you get raised to, or when you get a raise while having limped already. iow, do you respect opponents' raises.. Its probably a big leak limping so often when you intend to call a single raise aswell with the range.

I'm especially curious how you play when you get raised to, or when you get a raise while having limped already. iow, do you respect opponents' raises.. Its probably a big leak limping so often when you intend to call a single raise aswell with the range.

Yeah your right I'll limp with J236ss. From utg+1 I'll call at least one bet I don't call 3 bets as liberally(unless I have aces with at least 1 low card) also I should mention I'm playing in 6 max games, where I expect the play to be more aggressive....


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Limp/folding to a late position raise is really weak. Don't limp unless you intend to call. Don't call unless you have implied odds. You are going to lose a lot OOP, so you need to be relatively sure you can get paid if you hit a hand, and it is usually pretty obvious when a chronic limper suddenly connects with the board. I don't think you should spend too much time figuring out the nuances of limping, spend that time improving your fundamentals. Perhaps stop playing 6-max until you are more comfortable playing aggressively.

I'm not sure whether I agree fully with kroe on this
because I think that at lower stakes, you can fold potbets OOP if you limp 60%+, but I don't think that that's the leak here.

If you want to be profitable, I think that in a 6max game, limping UTG, UTG+1 and even HJ should be done with at least some possibilities to scoop a pot, or you will tend to lose a lot on the raises you will have to call where you will often hit half, or not enough (depending on the agressiveness of the nature of that game).

Which, in most cases, will also work this thing out of the way

Position is vital. Any 4 OOP will tend you to get 3/4rd (even more so in a 3-way)