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01-28-2010 , 06:42 AM

#551

anon1

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For low limit (.10/.25, .25/.50) at FTP, there are two players that I have a difficult time against. Candyland666 and Lord of Asgard.

Lord of Asgard's game has dramatically improved in the last 6 months or so, almost like night and day.

Candyland is pretty much always aggressive and puts you to a decision.

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01-28-2010 , 07:42 AM

#552

prodonkey

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I didn't play with him months ago.. but I have some recently.. I have him down a ton, lot of it to me but only played about 1500 hands with him. From what I've seen he flats a lot of very good hands.. but his raising range has a ton of junk, 3 betting 579K, raising 445Q utg.. etc.

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01-28-2010 , 07:57 AM

#553

anon1

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That's some interesting obvservations on him. I knew his 3-bet range was wider than norm but I didn't notice him 3-betting that. I guess I'll have to watch more closely.

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01-29-2010 , 09:06 PM

#554

BadSeed

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Talking about O8 regs, what's going on with stevesbets (plays as low as 3/6 and 5/10 on the Stars) and nadremark (saw him on 8/16 on Full Tilt)? I used to see both regularly playing at 30/60 and seemingly doing well, now they're coming to my playground, which annoys me a ton.

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01-29-2010 , 09:21 PM

#555

marek_heinz

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I've played with nadremark in some FTOPS 7game and he seemed very spewy to me, lol sample size though

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01-30-2010 , 07:54 PM

#556

Path_Finder

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Geeze Louise! I take a month off and come back to this thread to see it derail into name calling and hurt feelings. Is it not possible just to disagree? Songone thinks another player is bad or berates people it hits and runs or whatever. If you disagree, can't you just post that you disagree and state your own opinion?

I think we are little above "douche" comments.

And Mods, please don't blame the gun for the crime. Blame the guy who shoots it. There is no reason why grown ups can't discuss any topic with some measure of decorum.

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01-30-2010 , 10:37 PM

#557

prodonkey

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Originally Posted by Path_Finder

i disagree

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01-30-2010 , 10:43 PM

#558

niss

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Originally Posted by Path_Finder

thank god you're back to police the thread

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01-30-2010 , 10:46 PM

#559

prodonkey

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lol

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01-31-2010 , 09:21 AM

#560

Lucky LITE

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So jjhouwelling sits vs me at 10-20nlo8 hu and refuses to let me win one pot for about 5 hands then he stacks me in a very iffy spot (which he obv said was standard afterwards) and procedes to play very non-exploitive for the next 50 hands afterwhich I had to quit because I was obv tilted and it was affecting my play.

I never realized this but wow what a great way to tilt someone. I mean, I've gone on life tilt over poker but rarely let it affect my game; jjhouwelling actually got me to play worse which I'm shocked at from a low limit tag-bot. Good job jjhouwelling you tilted me and you will never get my action again. Well played.

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01-31-2010 , 09:36 AM

#561

GrimIsCool

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Anyone here playing PL10 on Stars? Solidly beating the regs (darkstar,natloz,etc) but still on a pretty long breakeven stretch :|

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01-31-2010 , 10:06 AM

#562

Tarvaris

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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool

Anyone here playing PL10 on Stars? Solidly beating the regs (darkstar,natloz,etc) but still on a pretty long breakeven stretch :|

I play pretty frequently, but I'm starting to transition to PL25.

Sorry to hear about the break even stretch. My luck has been pretty good at PL10. I am running well above EV according to Omaha Manager.

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01-31-2010 , 11:00 AM

#563

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Originally Posted by Tarvaris

Nice. I was playing PL25 but I cashed out alot, so I'm rebuilding the roll. I'm still running 3bb/100 which I suppose isn't horrible, but it's going to take a hella long time to build a PL25 roll :|

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01-31-2010 , 01:48 PM

#564

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douche-bag!

Ah, I couldn't resist. I haven't been much involved in the name calling stuff and don't really care either way to tell the truth! If people want to flame each other that is their business and I can just ignore it, as can we all. You can either choose to respond to the garbage or just ignore it and find the gems in the thread.

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01-31-2010 , 01:49 PM

#565

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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool

Nice. I was playing PL25 but I cashed out alot, so I'm rebuilding the roll. I'm still running 3bb/100 which I suppose isn't horrible, but it's going to take a hella long time to build a PL25 roll :|

I think PL25 is beatable for 10BB/100. Not a brag, not talking smack, just something to shoot for. On FTP I've been able to sustain 6BB/100 over a growing and good sample at PL100, but since I played a lot less PL25 I think my sample isn't big enough - but I've sustained 12BB/100.

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01-31-2010 , 03:38 PM

#566

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Originally Posted by Lucky LITE

You get stacked once in 50 hands in a hu match and you go on life tilt?

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01-31-2010 , 05:15 PM

#567

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Originally Posted by warchant09

You get stacked once in 50 hands in a hu match and you go on life tilt?

I liked the part where he lost 5 hands in a row, & assumes it was due to over aggro play (it of course is very possible, but equally as likely that they had 5 solid/connecting hands IMO especially considering the following 50 hands).

I vote lucky as the Mike Matasow of the 2+2 O8 forum, anybody with me on that? In the future when he makes a post like the ones he's famous for, maybe we could all respond with "take your pills Mikey"

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01-31-2010 , 07:57 PM

#568

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in response to those discussing PLo10 &Plo25, at these stakes because the rake causes chopped 2-way pots to be loses and often even overcomes the dead money of preflop/flop raises 3-way your win/rate is very effected by the rake. if you haven't considered this, then you have to adjust your game to this condition, or adjust your expectations for win/rate at these stakes but figure you are playing a style suitable for stakes where the rake has less impact.

as I haven't had a database for long, and didn;t import previous(old) HHs, I can attest sample size can surely significantly impact win rate....

Last edited by niceguysFT; 01-31-2010 at 08:04 PM.

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01-31-2010 , 08:06 PM

#569

Lucky LITE

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dude, all i was getting at was that jjhouwelling played a very "you dont win 1 pot" style of poker and it actually worked for them.

And the 5 hands weren't consecuative but just the 5 biggest pots we played. It was a frustrating mini-match but i realized I'm not good enough to mess with the low limit studs esspecially considering it tilted me so bad.

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01-31-2010 , 10:23 PM

#570

OneWhoShanks

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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool

Anyone here playing PL10 on Stars? Solidly beating the regs (darkstar,natloz,etc) but still on a pretty long breakeven stretch :|

the pl10 regs are really not good lol...
took me a long while to realize that...

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02-02-2010 , 05:59 PM

#571

Tarvaris

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Anyone know anything about CBechtold209 ? He multi-tables the 6m PL25 games. His icon is of a white guy with shutter shades on.

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02-02-2010 , 07:24 PM

#572

LFMTLegend

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Originally Posted by Tarvaris

Anyone know anything about CBechtold209 ? He multi-tables the 6m PL25 games. His icon is of a white guy with shutter shades on.

What is it you're looking to find out? I don't play PL25, but I've played him at other limits. Can't say I hate having him at the table but can't say he's a total fish either.

His leaks are pretty obvious, though, if you've played much against him. It's just not in my best interests to spell them out for you publicly.

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02-02-2010 , 07:34 PM

#573

LFMTLegend

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Just ran a report on opponents for my last 130k hands at 50-100NL/PLO8 (which is all I have HHs for on this comp).

I find it interesting that of the 10 highest-volume players in my DB, I am the only one with a positive winrate (11.96bb/100). The opponent I've played the most against during this time is running at -11.40bb/100, which is absurdly bad for that volume and limit. The opponent with the "best" winrate in my top 10 is at -2.1bb/100.

Should my conclusion be that most regs at these limits are terrible? Or am I just really good at game selection?

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02-02-2010 , 07:55 PM

#574

Tarvaris

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Originally Posted by LFMTLegend

What is it you're looking to find out?

I guess it was just a general question. Just started playing PL25 more frequently and noticed he seems to log some serious hours and is at almost every table available. Looking to see what I can find out about the regs before I log a ton of hands and lose my element of surprise.

From what I've seen so far he doesn't get too out of line, seems TAG.

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02-02-2010 , 07:59 PM

#575

Tarvaris

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Originally Posted by LFMTLegend

Should my conclusion be that most regs at these limits are terrible? Or am I just really good at game selection?

Maybe they are bad.. OR maybe you are good and just your presence alone at the table makes it unprofitable for others to play there. Are you up money on all 10 of these players?

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