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08-20-2023 , 05:03 PM
Hi all,

I'm generally new to Big O. Have played some Omaha 8 Limit and PLO8 prior. Just moved to Montana where live cash games have a max pot of $800 (state law - kind of crazy to me). This changes considerations in gameplay tremendously. Earlier on in the night I notice that players generally play tighter. After a few drinks everybody is seeing flops, some with less than profitable holdings.

Stakes are 1-2-5 mandatory straddle. with optional restraddle from anywhere. Stacks are generally $500-$2000 but max pot every hand is $800 no matter the number of players.

Scenario 1: Players pot (effectively all in preflop) and we have a 6 way pot for $130 each and then we run the board out.
Scenario 2: We see a flop, pot is about $100. People are betting bot and then can several callers. Pot is $600 on turn. BECAUSE OF STATE LAW, player bets $200 but his bet is reduced by however many future players to ask decide to call. If all remaining 4 players "Call", their call is actually $40 and not $200 so they take back the $160 and run out the hand.

I am unsure how to proceed post flop in these scenarios as I generally can't outbet people and have to show up with strong holdings to be +EV. But, even more so in this game structure.

Anybody familiar with capped pot strategy for Big O or PLO?

I know I can beat this game with some adjustments. Thanks for reading!
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08-20-2023 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Espresso28
I know I can beat this game with some adjustments. Thanks for reading!
Time raked? I think my answer is the usual - play tight but aggressive pre-flop and you are printing EV.
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08-20-2023 , 08:12 PM
implied odds go way down in this setup, direct equity increases in importance relative to robust, multi-street equity, since you will rarely have the chance to barrel multiple streets and put pressure on middling hands. you're basically playing a maximum of 80bb deep preflop and often much less than that. very strong high-only hands also go up in relative value as stacks get short.

so, yeah, play tight, aggressive, boring poker, prepare to ride the variance dragon and print money.
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08-21-2023 , 02:22 PM
One interesting thing about this structure is that postflop (or even preflop if enough action goes in) you can jam or call it off fairly light if you are jamming for less than the amount remaining in the cap. This is because if someone wakes up with a hand behind you, you are getting a rebate on the total amount you are risking. So what appears to be a "large" bet is not so large. This may be obvious but I would guess people don't think about it correctly.

example: 4 players see a flop and the pot has $400 in it. You pot it, someone completely naive to the game sees you bet $400, not realizing the max you are actually betting is $200, and if multiple people call it is even less. The next to act guy has a lot of incentive to call pretty light here - if he calls and everyone else folds he risks $200, but if someone calls behind him (bad for him!) he is risking even less. In general this structure will reward sticking it in / calling it off, and punish overly tight folds multiway.
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08-21-2023 , 06:13 PM
Agreed. How might this influence calling (and inducing more players to call) when drawing to the nuts? Would it make sense to just call with nut flush draws, wraps, etc... to enable more money into the pot if you are drawing to the nuts?

I am trying to consider all possible factors in this game structure that may require some tweaking or adjusting.
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08-21-2023 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by amok
Time raked? I think my answer is the usual - play tight but aggressive pre-flop and you are printing EV.
10% or $6/hand (MAX) per pot.
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