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11-04-2023 , 02:17 AM

DumbosTrunk

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Hi all,

100/200 limit o8, 9-handed with the button sitting out, we open AT92 with t-high suit utg and bb defends. He’s a good pro. $600 eff.

Flop: ($450): 22Qr. He checks we bet $100 he calls.

Turn ($650): K bringing bdfd we don’t have. He checks we bet $200 he check raises to $400. We have about that behind, maybe a little more.

Thanks,
DT

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 11-04-2023 at 02:32 AM.

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11-04-2023 , 05:31 AM

OmahaDonk

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The check raise covers you? Umm call?

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11-06-2023 , 05:52 AM

DumbosTrunk

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Ok I called he had QQ86. No way to get away from this one I guess even though my hand is pretty face up when I double barrel.

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11-06-2023 , 08:10 PM

chillrob

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You're playing poker hands with only 3 big bets in front of you?

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11-08-2023 , 01:20 PM

DumbosTrunk

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Originally Posted by chillrob

You're playing poker hands with only 3 big bets in front of you?

Umm...I'm still relatively new to the game, at a skill disadvantage...so yeah, I'm buying in short.

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11-08-2023 , 02:02 PM

amok

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Even in a limit game it's a massive advantage to be short.

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11-08-2023 , 04:12 PM

chillrob

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Originally Posted by amok

Even in a limit game it's a massive advantage to be short.

I know theoretically it is, all other things being equal, but in practice I think if you're a favorite in the game you're usually better off with more money. I've just never heard of anyone playing this short unless they were really stuck and didn't want to rebuy.

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11-08-2023 , 04:27 PM

amok

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Originally Posted by chillrob

in practice I think if you're a favorite in the game you're usually better off with more money.

Why?

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11-08-2023 , 06:25 PM

chillrob

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Originally Posted by amok

Why?

Because each additional dollar you put in the pot should have a positive expectation.

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11-08-2023 , 06:31 PM

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amok

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Originally Posted by chillrob

Because each additional dollar you put in the pot should have a positive expectation.

Arrogant, but might be fair if you are a lot better than the opposition. Still, that needs to beat the mathematical value you gain for the short stack.

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11-08-2023 , 06:33 PM

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fateddiez

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that should be an easy fold in that game. on a turn check raise means 99% of the time they have it.

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11-08-2023 , 06:35 PM

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OmahaDonk

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Originally Posted by fateddiez

that should be an easy fold in that game. on a turn check raise means 99% of the time they have it.

Villain is going to check fold worse trips?

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11-08-2023 , 06:44 PM

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amok

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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk

Villain is going to check fold worse trips?

This. Folding is atrocious.

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11-08-2023 , 07:29 PM

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monikrazy

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Villain's line is relatively credible but with this game's bad structure Hero is expected to stack off here

Dumbo I don't think short-buying is a good strategy if you are trying to improve.

Short-buying can also just feel bad for several different reasons, including that you will get stacked a lot.

Not being able to put in multiple bets on turn and river would drive me crazy.

Last edited by monikrazy; 11-08-2023 at 07:46 PM.

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