I am sort of a poker book junkie but have gradually transitioned into playing pretty much only PLO8. Not that much in the way of books out there on PLO8 and what there is I already own. Except then I came across a book called:

Scoop!: Big O and PLO8: Winning Concepts for the Hold'em Mind (Volume 1)
by Greg Vail, edited by Doug Hull

I can't find much about it except the 11 Amazon reviews which are somewhat suspiciously all 5 stars. I do not own it and am somewhat reluctant to buy it since it is 222 pages long, is only "Volume 1", and costs $49.95. So short, incomplete, and expensive. Ranked #210,678 on Amazon Best Sellers and #137 in Poker, but it is a niche book.

I am hoping to learn something about this book that makes it a worthwhile purchase. However, as an old-timer I am skeptical when a short paperback poker book uses an unusual pricing or marketing strategy.

Less reading and more watching. Run it once has it all.

RIO has pretty much no PLO8 content worth watching.

The book (https://www.amazon.com/Scoop-PLO8-Wi.../dp/B07DFTGYPQ) is for beginners, or so it states. I browsed through the free pages, and they teach you how to nit, which is of course the best way to start playing this game (plus makes you a winning player in most live games).

Thanks amok, long time, and you have helped me. Negligently I hadn't noticed the free pages but I agree with you about the content. A "curious" pricing strategy to say the least.

However, easy correct decision now and isn't that just what poker is all about.

This is nonsense.

I'm a happy subscriber to RIO and an enthusiastic part of that community, but it's not like that site has exhausted PLO8 and Big O strategy and become the be-all end-all authority on it.

Furthermore, you need RIO's $99.99/mo Elite subscription to access most of their non-NLHE/PLO (hi) content, so it's a very significant value question compared to a book.

Plus, some folks just like poker books. Again, I like RIO, but I also love poker books.

Sorry to be short about it, but I felt the need to push back hard on this sentiment.

(Also, keep in mind that this forum is attached to a BOOK publishing company. Kind of an odd venue for anti-book sentiment.)

Ok. Good point. You are right and i am wrong. Very rude and talk negative about books, i must have had a bad day to write something awful like this. I will work on myself. But i also tried to help the guy. I am RIO elite member and im very happy with the content. Have a nice day

I have this book and I am a beginner.

They stated that this book mainly for transition from Holdem.
>>they teach you how to nit

Yes, exactly. They suggest very narrow starting hands range, and teach you what to do if you hit the board perfectly

The book is priced a little high for some unknown reason. The hard copy of the book is riddled with typos and grammar problems - some are easily read over, some will slow you down. The Kindle version has corrected some but I don't think all.

While the book is supposedly aimed at beginners coming from Holdem, there is more content than this. There is some good info in here as the author takes you through the thought process using some fundamental concepts that he explains. So, it's a good book for intermediates too. Some interesting thoughts on bet sizing that even I learned from.

The author is deeply biased toward deep stack play and against short stack play, which is one negative of the book. In fact I don't think he even understands short stack play very well. To be fair, the equities involved are sometimes surprising, but then again this is the sort of thing you'd want to buy a book for. Even if you never short stack, you can't control what your neighbors do.