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01-19-2013 , 09:44 PM

Kittens

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Is Hero's line reasonable here? (note: Hero is not me, in this hand - in fact, I'm CO).

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 5 Players

BTN: $48.60 (48.6 bb)
SB: $86.49 (86.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $134.19 (134.2 bb)
MP: $52.33 (52.3 bb)
CO: $106.07 (106.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3

MP folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, CO calls $3

Flop: ($12.50) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $11.94, CO calls $11.94

Turn: ($36.38) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $34.74, CO raises to $88.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $53.39

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01-19-2013 , 10:31 PM

LimpDitka

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Tough to say, its really dependent on your opponent.

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01-19-2013 , 11:24 PM

illiterat

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Min. raising in the blinds is somewhere between bad and horrible, leaning towards the later if you are going to go all out on this flop+turn.

After that though, given CO is you and he has a blocker for top pair on the flop and 2nd nut low draw on the turn ... meh. The only real alternative to betting flop is x/f, after betting flop betting any low turn seems almost mandatory ... and after betting both he has to call unless he knows you have like AQT2.

As I said, meh, he looks like a genius if you have AKQ2 and like a tard if you have ATT4.

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01-20-2013 , 12:29 AM

belg_owner

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that minraise just screams aa

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01-20-2013 , 02:15 AM

monikrazy

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hero's line is pretty weak

min-raise is iffy but relatively unimportant, keeping pot smaller with AA isn't necessarily a bad thing

flop betting is bigger than it needs to be however (checking the flop is also fine), turn is compounding the error on the flop

very small set of hands hero gets value from, misplayed every street

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01-20-2013 , 03:31 AM

ngFTW

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 449

does pokestars really limit a pot bet to being 95.5% of pot until the rake cap is reached???

don't you think you should organize and complain about it.

its not 95%pot limit omaha, its pot limit omaha!!!!!!!!!
( i know it's actually PLO8, but you get my meaning)

(reducing each pot bet to .955 of pot, hu post flop, pot bets on each street, the final pot is 24.64p instead of 27p.-given the rake cap wasn't reached)

Last edited by ngFTW; 01-20-2013 at 03:41 AM.

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01-20-2013 , 08:53 AM

billygstar

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can't get past the min raise from hero lol

but i guess if u bet flop u may get called by worse but can hero really bet turn without gettin it in?

omg look at the bet sizing..this is just **** terrible

would be nice to know how it is if i gonna comment but w/e

to every1 that reads this is an example of how not to play o8 imo

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01-20-2013 , 11:08 AM

Kittens

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Originally Posted by ngFTW

does pokestars really limit a pot bet to being 95.5% of pot until the rake cap is reached???

It takes the rake out of the pot on each street before the betting, and then the "pot-sized bet" limit is the post-raked pot size.

I complained about this when they first started doing it but nobody on 2+2 seemed to care

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01-29-2013 , 08:26 PM

BenG2813

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,291

well if I'm hero once I bet turn I'm not folding to your shove and I don't mind his bet.

I would raise more preflop or flat if I thought he would put me on this exact type of hand.

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01-29-2013 , 08:32 PM

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BenG2813

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

I disagree. I think donkey kong is the best video game ever.....

but seriously, there are tons of hands in CO's range that you get value from here, especially on turn when he calls flop.

There are so many draws, pair plus draws and basically every draw known to man on the turn.

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01-30-2013 , 03:45 PM

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JB262

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i'm not a fan

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