4/8 LO8 with a half kill at the Venetian; Hero's card-dead 2 hours now, with like 5% VP$IP; BTN (killer) says "check" out of turn; MP is a maniac, pre stats 90/50, doesn't open-limp AA**, A2**, would typically re-open the flop betting with a real hand, gonna 5-bet (cap) the flop betting 100% of the time; CO is a LAG, frequent tilting spewer; BTN is tight-passive, plays very few hands and usually shows down the goods.

9 players, kill pot, Hero is dealt KQ87 in the BB.
2 folds, MP calls, 2 folds, CO calls, SB completes 2/3 a bet, Hero completes 1/3 a bet, BTN (kill) checks.
Flop (5 players, 5 sb's): 773.
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, CO raises, BTN calls, Hero calls, MP 3-bets, CO 4-bets, BTN calls, Hero (effectively getting 21:3 after rake, or 7:1, assuming a 5-bet and 2 callers)??

sry for being uninformed but what is a "kill pot"?

ontopic: looks like a snapcall to me

Live game gimmick where the blinds go up when some condition has been met. V 4/8 O8 game plays with a "half-kill" where a scooped pot of $40 (IIRC) causes the scooper to post a $6 blind (normal small bet+50%), making it $6 to go, and the game becomes a 6/12 game for that hand.

If a game is played with a "full kill", it means the blinds double. You only see kill pots offered on fixed limit games.

I don't see a fold yet. Not likely someone has 37.

No way I'm folding.

I would continue on with the hand despite the heavy action, based on your player reads. you have a good hand that is beat only by a select few others. there is always the possibility that we are behind (33, 37, A7), but based on your reads, and that you already have one of the remaining sevens, your opponents are more likely to be behind with a low draw, inside wrap, a worse seven; and say, in the instance, that the BTN does have a made hand, you are getting fair odds to bink a better full house/quads.

side note: are there really 5 bets per round in this game? never played in a game w/ more than 4 . do you think this structure produces looser play from the players, determined to get their share of bigger pots?

Just shrug and try to hit one of your kickers.

Preferably the king or queen.

The quality of flopped trips always depends on whether or not the third card is higher or lower than the trips. Lower? Go to town. Higher? Be careful.

For some reason I thought I was a 100% behind, in which case I have an average of 5 outs (considering re-draws, higher full houses, splitting high, low coming etc.), so getting 7:1 isn't quite enough (break even is 8:1).
a bet and 4 raises, that's the structure in all Vegas (not just Venetian) limit games (not just LO8).
Absolutely. One maniac is often enough to produce lots of capped pots preflop, creating huge pots (especially in kill pots).
BTW, on a betting round in which the action is HU, number of bets is uncapped.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 773

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
kdqc8h7c	23.81%	71,495	198,664	22,881	0	0
a24*	36.58%	26,005	30,671	2,262	372,548	64,142
a7**	39.61%	80,927	345,522	25,143	2,796	64,142

Notice the odds reflect how much my hand is worth if all hands go to showdown. Getting to showdown will likely be quite expensive, while multiple big bets on the turn are going to cripple my effective odds.
So my conclusion was that I had to catch immediately and I felt the decision was close, and a second before I got stuck in a pricy kill pot, I decided to take an early out, waiting for a better spot.
Your thoughts?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 773

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
kdqc8h7c	33.18%	86,920	268,646	64,018	491	441
a2**	35.97%	24,970	29,257	654	386,740	18,062
*7**	30.85%	63,453	237,425	64,672	29,060	18,155

Why give credit for the other 7 having you out-kicked?
I'm pretty nitty, but I'd really want to take one off. Who knows? Action could ease on the turn when the bets double.

FRG, the flop betting was uncharacteristic to the table dynamics thus far, even given what I know about the flop aggressors.
equity assumes I'm showing down my hand. going to showdown cheaply isn't a bad plan, but it's too optimistic. for one- I may be winning at showdown but have to fold to heavy action on the turn/river; for two- I may be winning at showdown but have to fold to a scary turn/river card combined with some action.
It's just too likely things gonna go bad and I'm gonna have to fold and forfeit equity.