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01-26-2011 , 03:52 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($49.25)
BB ($60.20)
Hero ($272)
UTG+1 ($33.30)
CO ($42.40)
BTN ($104)

Dealt to Hero 4 Q Q 2

Hero raises to $1.25, UTG+1 calls $1.25, fold, fold, SB calls $1, fold

FLOP ($4.25) T 6 4

SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

TURN ($4.25) T 6 4 4

SB checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG+1 folds, SB raises to $9.60, Hero folds

SB wins $11.20

Prolly very light open UTG I know... I should need at least 1 queen suited. I am guessing most people think fold pre even double suited?

Obv not c-betting that texture, not only did I whiff it pretty hard, that flop hits their hands real good usually. Was hoping for board pair/ high card which happened.

Also thoughts about betting turn vs checking turn? IMO can't be checking even though there's a flush out because have to protect vs giving low draws half the pot.

It seems like an easy fold but my concern here is that a) it's hard for me to have a strong hand and he can possibly know this and b) it's hard for him to have a strong hand because he checked twice! These two factors made me think I could be good... only problem is I gotta go all in to find out because if I think I am good I can't let the low come off and give myself an opportunity to fold.

Would anyone else question him having a boat because of the above? Does this guy really let a free card come off to beat/chop him?

Also I didn't think about drawing to a boat for even a second, I know my outs are bad.

Last edited by LUCIUS VARENUS; 01-26-2011 at 04:03 PM.
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01-26-2011 , 03:53 PM
btw the 2.5x pre is a style thing which works for me

villain is lehmanwins

Last edited by LUCIUS VARENUS; 01-26-2011 at 03:58 PM.
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01-26-2011 , 04:01 PM
i am probably getting my knickers in a twist way too much over this. what people do doesn't need to make sense nor does it necessarily be the best way to play and i should be happy this guy plays this way. i know there will be so many people who would check my hand and he misses so much value from those people and gives a free card to beat him.

most likely he was playing tight and straightforward, on this texture it's unlikely to be a move, and i should just move on and carry on bet/folding to victory.
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01-26-2011 , 04:36 PM
I tilted Lehman this morning.

Hand 1: QJT9, UTG raised, Lehman 3bet, I cold, UTG calls. Flop 998. He pots yada yada

Hand 2 like 2 minutes later: AA25 vs AA3T and I quarter him

Easy fold to turn raise in your hand
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01-26-2011 , 04:43 PM
Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): $49.25
BB: $60.20
UTG: $272.40
MP: $33.30
CO: $42.40
BTN: $104.85

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A 7 2 J
UTG raises to $1.25, MP calls $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.25) T 6 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

Turn: ($4.25) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.75, MP folds, Hero raises to $9.60, UTG folds

Final Pot: $11.75
Hero wins $11.20
(Rake: $0.55)
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01-26-2011 , 04:49 PM
And despite hands from Pred still one of my best days in at least 2 months
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01-26-2011 , 05:04 PM
Why?
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01-26-2011 , 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lehman18
Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): $49.25
BB: $60.20
UTG: $272.40
MP: $33.30
CO: $42.40
BTN: $104.85

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A 7 2 J
UTG raises to $1.25, MP calls $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.25) T 6 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

Turn: ($4.25) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.75, MP folds, Hero raises to $9.60, UTG folds

Final Pot: $11.75
Hero wins $11.20
(Rake: $0.55)
nice bluff, but only nice because it worked! i don't think that your line makes any sense, it looks like a bluff, you were lucky i didn't have a flush or boat! know that both of these are possible - sometimes i randomly check hands i normally bet! heh, maybe i pay you off every time now.

i am sure vs your usual range i am no good there. but idk if you ever play that way with any hand for value

i am wondering whether u are calling me if i reraise. i was never calling. only raise or fold.
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01-26-2011 , 05:55 PM
even before he posted the hand I thought there was a decent chance of him bluffing based on my history with him. So I would check the turn back against him as played I think it is fold
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01-26-2011 , 06:20 PM
Figured u were weak(possibly bad aces) and couldn't call a raise and even if u were to call I still had equity with my low draw. Not really a great line but I thought I could rep a better range than u cuz u were pfr and u checked back
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01-27-2011 , 05:39 AM
Easy fold on the turn, although I would often check the turn (especially against jackals). Betting is good too though, to deny a low draw a free card.

If someone's going to checkraise with air here you will smash him in other hands where you actually have something.
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01-27-2011 , 02:36 PM
Say the villian does bluff with some degree of frequency on hands like this. How often does he have to do this to be +EV?

He loses his $9.60 and his pfr of $1.25, so a total of $10.85 if the hero reraises his turn raise. In this hand, he makes $8 as the hero folds. So he has to run a successful bluff roughly every other time. That seems feasible.
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