"In the days when the Führer was being challenged even within his own party on his plan to exterminate the Jews of Europe, the Jews and their allies controlled many major businesses, they controlled many major banks, they owned many major newspapers and magazines. They were protected by the rule of law, by trial by jury, and by laws against robbery, kidnapping, and murder. They had everything on their side and people said to Hitler, 'How can you win, how can you do this, how can you do this against all of the odds against you?' And Hitler said, 'You fight your war and do your destruction and I'll fight mine and do my destruction.'"
B-

all this bickering needs to stop right mao

C+

Wait, now we've moved from she said Mao was her "favorite political philosopher" to she's guilty because she invoked Mao at all to "inspire youth"?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=89511940


John McCain dared to present the words of this monster as a way to inspire himself to keep campaigning! Perhaps he would like to rephrase his remarks. Perhaps he would like to substitute Adolf Hitler for Mao Tse-tung. Perhaps he would like to say something like this:

"I think we had some difficulties and righted the ship," McCain told Letterman. "For a while there, I was reminded of the words of the Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, who said it's always darkest before it's totally black."

mises.org ftw

probably too generous

It was okay, B-

I think a guy who was tortured and had the **** kicked out of him for 5 1/2 years by really bad folks who were arguably de facto Mao underlings can get away with quoting the great Chairman without leaving the slightest bit of ambiguity as to where his loyalties or admirations are.

Now, it makes sense. Dunn is part of the global communist movement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong

this

Ad hominen ldo but alright, whatever, you do get extra credit for finding an especially appealing ad hominem with respect to McCain fwiw. Anyway:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/...unn/index.html

Newt Gingrich dared to present the words of this monster as a way to legitimize his politicking! Perhaps he would like to rephrase his remarks. Perhaps he would like to substitute Adolf Hitler for Mao Tse-tung. Perhaps he would like to say something like this:

"War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood," Gingrich said, citing Hitler."

mises.org ftw

I'm sure that, of course, there will be some very special personal circumstances that allows Gingrich to quote Mao and be beyond reproach which for whatever reason don't apply to Dunn.

He's a republican LDO.

Well you realize the protests had nothing to do with pro-communism and everything to do with religion, right? It is obvious he wasn't as liked after he started persecuting various religious factions, but that wasn't even the point. He was killed by ARVN generals in a coup not born out of some widespread pro-communist sympathy, but because Diem was a moron when it came to handling the Buddhist unrest. At the time of his election, however, he enjoyed much popularity due to his anti-communism (which was the main platform he ran under). This is completely irrelevant, however, as the point is and has always been that the majority of S. Vietnamese people were anti-communist before AND after Diem, thus demonstrating Schlitz mmmm's assertion that the Vietcong were a "rather a large % of the south vietnam population" to be fallacious.

Because quoting someone and saying they are one of your favorite philosophers is exactly the same thing. amirite?

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This basically blows the "irony" defense out of the water.

wtf

Dunn is right, this is an inspriational underdog story if I've heard one. I could see this played out on film:

"Mao, you're 5 foot nothin', 100 and nothin', and you have barely a speck of natural ability. And you hung in there with Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalist Chinese who held the cities, had the army, had the air force, and had everything on their side for almost 20 years. And you're gonna walk outta here and found the People's Republic of China. In this life, you don't have to prove nothin' to nobody but yourself. And after what you've gone through, if you haven't done that by now, it ain't gonna never happen."

Meh, Mao was helped more by the United States ability to make decisions against it's own self interest than his own genius. Though adherents to his cult of personality will never agree to that.

Oh come on now. Quoting an aphorism attributed to Mao is not the same thing as saying he is one of your favorite political philosophers and then relating an inspirational story about Mao's life.

Did any of you guys actually read what bigdaddy linked to and what I was responding to?:

mises.org author went off because she quoted Mao at all, then went all "hurr hurr hurr what if we take what she said and attribute it to Hitler, is that okay, hurr hurr?!?!?"

Well, if that's the new standard, why can't I take when Gingrich and McCain quoted Mao, wonder aloud what would happen if I attribute the quotes to Hitler instead?

If you think the distinguishing variable here is "she said Mao is her favorite philosopher", I've already addressed that, but your problem is actually with the mises.org author, who thinks invoking Mao is monstrous in and of itself and got all indignant about it.

Is it REALLY too much to ask for you guys to READ THE THREADS.

Fwiw McCain and Gingrich are both pretty much asshats as well so who gives a **** if they quote other asshats?

13th 4postle, out of curiosity: why do you think that, after calling Mao and Mother Theresa two of her favorite political philosophers, she said that they are not often "coupled with each other"? What was the point of that aside?

What a ****ing ridiculous comment.

No. No he didn't. He went off because in his words:

"Her [Dunn's] remarks were not limited to a casual comment that had vicious implications. Rather they constituted a prolonged, blatantly explicit, and far more fundamental endorsement of an incalculably worse person and program than did those of Trent Lott. She has dared to say that one of her "favorite political philosophers" is one of the greatest mass murderers in the history of the world, a man whose takeover of China was responsible for as many as 70 million deaths during his reign. She has dared to present the words of this monster as a source of inspiration to youth!

No bad person's words should ever be uttered within earshot of a minor! In Glenn Beck's America(an America of Freedom and Liberty) such conduct would be a stoning offense.

Trent Lott was endorsing Thurmond's policies and political platform by saying that America would be better off had we elected him, Dunn was saying that she likes to use Mao as a historical example to prove a point.