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03-18-2019 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Beto isn’t even looking at Bernie. He’s worried about Biden, who will almost certainly crush 6 million on the first day and probably race to 50 in 2 or 3 months.

If he can’t get close to that, he’s dead in the water and he’s going to be running for VP.
Biden is not called 1% Joe by Trump for nothing. He's an horrible candidate. The guy will fold early like he always does.
03-18-2019 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
Yeah what's with the weird Yang takes?

If you think this guy is a secret white nationalist it's a good sign you're perhaps a bit too online.

Also, if your response to anyone talking about white people dying from drugs/stagnating economies in the interior of the country is to assume they're aligned with Richard Spencer then that's bad.
The pepe crowd loves him.
03-18-2019 , 05:26 PM
Didn't see this posted yet, only 1 state and low sample size but wowzer



https://emersonpolling.reportablenew...neral-election

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The first Emerson College Wisconsin Poll of the Democratic primary finds Bernie Sanders holding a strong lead with 39% of the vote, followed by Joe Biden at 24%. In third place, Elizabeth Warren, the only other candidate in double digits, is at 14%. The poll was conducted March 15-17, n=324, +/- 5.4%.


Also interesting:

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Democratic primary voters appear to be looking for a candidate on the left in terms of policy. Twenty-four percent (24%) of Democratic respondents reported they want policies that significantly move the party to the left; 31% want policies slightly to the left. 30% said they want party policies to stay as is - with only 15% looking for the party to move to the right.
03-18-2019 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Ive never even taken a business or econ class so you would know best. But wouldn't that leave all small business without investors outside of capitalism? And wouldn't it mean when we as a society invest our tax dollars into the postal services we and it would be part of the capitalist system?

I guess the seconded one is pushing it because we are not getting profit...social security might work if you paid less then you get.
I'm not that knowledgeable either. But I think the bottom line is that socialism doesn't allow you to make money with money. And I don't think that even the candidates who call themselves socialists are fully opposed to making money that way as long as those who benefit from that technique don't get to keep as much as they are now, to spend however they like.
03-18-2019 , 06:24 PM
Chapo Reddit hates Yang.
03-18-2019 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark


What a pandering clown this guy is
Look at the comments to this tweet. Beto is getting absolutely BLASTED

Spoiler:
by right wingers.
03-18-2019 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
The pepe crowd loves him.
And? That's not a reason to condemn Yang, unless you want to give Richard Spencer veto power over the Democratic primary. If you listen to Yang talk it's very clear that his views aren't coming from the alt-right or motivated by racism. But if there's something wrong with Yang's views or proposals, by all means discuss that. But this guilt-by-association stuff is terrible.
03-18-2019 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
2p2 bernie bros: Beto is beta cuck who no one likes

Reality: Beto raises more than Bernie did day one of their campaigns
You HRC fanatics just will not stfu.
03-18-2019 , 07:20 PM

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/sta...52515793403909



*decrements Gabbard*
03-18-2019 , 07:42 PM
Let's just call that take "interesting" and move on (figuratively and literally).
03-18-2019 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Does anyone else know what other song this one sounds like? I remember when it was first released, I thought it was copying the chorus ("Ooooh Baby, it's driving me crazy") I tried finding online, but there's no mention of it.

Even the guitar lick sounds like it's from something else....

And for twenty years...

Spoiler:
it's driving me crazy.


03-18-2019 , 07:44 PM
Bernie - a jewish president who condemns israel
Biden - creepy child sniffer
Kamala - Jussie Smollett
Beto - a masterclass in male entitlement t. Week In Patriachy™

Yang can't lose

just stuck a weeks wages on him at 33/1

i need my neetbux too

one time!!!!!!!!11111111111111

03-18-2019 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I called it weeks ago: shorting Yang is the new shorting Ron Paul
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Originally Posted by micro dong
Bernie - a jewish president who condemns israel
Biden - creepy child sniffer
Kamala - Jussie Smollett
Beto - a masterclass in male entitlement t. Week In Patriachy™

Yang can't lose

just stuck a weeks wages on him at 33/1

i need my neetbux too

one time!!!!!!!!11111111111111

Always cool to meet the guy on the other end of the deal.
03-18-2019 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I'm not that knowledgeable either. But I think the bottom line is that socialism doesn't allow you to make money with money. And I don't think that even the candidates who call themselves socialists are fully opposed to making money that way as long as those who benefit from that technique don't get to keep as much as they are now, to spend however they like.
Yeah I would agree. But if mircobob says we are wrong I don’t know.
03-18-2019 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
But if mircobob says we are wrong I don’t know.
sick burn
03-18-2019 , 08:40 PM
People like Bernie and AOC actually do sign up for the equality of outcome true socialism of the 1950s and 60s.

What a lot of progressives have in mind (since they cite Scandinavian countries) is more of a guided capitalist system that needs a much better branding (so it doesn't trigger memories of Great Leap Forward for example) and definition (to weed out the crazies that really do want to get rid of most private enterprise and forces of capitalism.)

Andrew Yang, partly because he kind of doesn't give a ****, is basically making the same point when he points out the Capitalist/Socialist dichotomy is outdated but he (nor anyone I know) hasn't quite figured out how to brand "guided capitalism" (or whatever you want to call it) either.
03-18-2019 , 08:47 PM
Bernie cites the Scandinavian countries all the time.

Who are you suggesting are the other progressives who cite Scandinavian countries?
03-18-2019 , 08:48 PM
Wait what's the difference between "guided capitalism" and "equality of outcome socialism from the 50s?"

Is this like the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front?
03-18-2019 , 08:55 PM
Equality of outcome means everyone has fairly similar standard of living. There are no rich and poor, at least in theory. I never heard of "guided of capitalism" but surely anything called capitalism would allow some people to get richer than others.
03-18-2019 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
People like Bernie and AOC actually do sign up for the equality of outcome true socialism of the 1950s and 60s.

What a lot of progressives have in mind (since they cite Scandinavian countries) is more of a guided capitalist system that needs a much better branding (so it doesn't trigger memories of Great Leap Forward for example) and definition (to weed out the crazies that really do want to get rid of most private enterprise and forces of capitalism.)

Andrew Yang, partly because he kind of doesn't give a ****, is basically making the same point when he points out the Capitalist/Socialist dichotomy is outdated but he (nor anyone I know) hasn't quite figured out how to brand "guided capitalism" (or whatever you want to call it) either.

I think this is what you might be looking for: Social market economy
03-18-2019 , 09:06 PM
Can someone here make the case for Beto? Paul?

I get that he's handsome and charismatic, and that will make him appealing to some simpletons. But what else?
03-18-2019 , 09:08 PM
Pete > Beto by every metric I can think of.
03-18-2019 , 09:08 PM
Get rid of social, add a marketable euphemism, and attach an -ism to the end and yeah.
03-18-2019 , 09:09 PM
Are we really gonna spend the next 18 months debating definitions of "socialism" and which candidates advocate which definition of "socialism"?

Or maybe we can please stop the prevarication and scurrilous labeling of candidates.

TYIA
03-18-2019 , 09:39 PM
Why does anyone care about the native american thing? Some guy asked a question about it and the wording of it was "How do you respond to people who say the way you handled it was bad and blah blah?"

So you don't have an opinion of her handling of the native american thing but you're concerned about what other people think?

But even news casters use that weasel-y "some people say" phrasing when criticizing someone.

      
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